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  • bshot
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 1043

    Personal First Aid Kit for the range

    I often shoot at BLM and can be a hours away from the nearest hospital. Do you carry a first aid kit to the range/blm? What would you recommend I include in my kit?

    I am considering one of these options below or making one myself but not sure if it's worth the cost savings, if any. Thanks in advance.



    Your Trauma Kit with QuikClot and SWAT-T Tourniquet contains:
    1 Pair of Antiseptic Gloves - for protection of both patient and care giver.
    4 Antiseptic Wipes - for wound cleaning and protection.
    1 QuikClot Advanced Clotting Sponge - 3.5" x 3.5" Mesh Bag 25g
    1 SWAT-T Stretch-Wrap-And-Tuck Tourniquet 1 Sterile Gauze Pad 5" x 9"
    1 Roll of Gauze Bandage 3" x 4.1 Yards
    1 Roll of Medical Tape - for holding dressings in place.
    1 Kit Bag, with easy-open zipper and heavy-duty locking hook for secure storage where you need it.

    The Trauma Kit with QuikClot & SWAT-T Tourniquet is designed to stop bleeding at the scene so more advanced care can be sought later.

    With this kit you will be prepared to save lives.

    Or

    Be prepared. Carry a trauma kit. Stop the Bleed and start the breathing. Every Day Trauma Training and easy to use Trauma Kits and Individual First Aid Kits (IFAK)
  • #2
    JDay
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2008
    • 19393

    The second one is a better start. I'd add some triangular bandages and Sam splints at a minimum. You should also take a basic first aid class, you'll learn a lot and get a better understanding of the basics you need in your kit.
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    • #3
      L84CABO
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2009
      • 8681

      Yup...always have a kit on hand. I have a personal gun shot kit that goes with me wherever I shoot and then always have a big kit in the truck.

      The Dark Angel is a much better kit and a pretty complete gunshot kit. Note that you can probably pull the exact items together yourself for a bit less.

      You should also work on pulling together a good kit for the car and house if you don't have those already.
      Last edited by L84CABO; 11-02-2015, 1:01 AM.
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      • #4
        Thesource161
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 574

        I carry a very basic kit i made while working at the hospital. I learned a lot and asked a lot of questions in regards to gsw's. I carry a trauma tourniquet, a health amount of 4x4 gauze, a manual blood pressure cuff, a pair of gloves, trauma sheers, and a bottle of water.

        For me the kit is made to maintain while A...your waiting for help or B.....your driving yourself to get help. 4x4's are to control bleeding. Manual blood pressure cuff is to apply pressure (however little or small you need kind of like a tourniquet, but with less chance of losing that extremity) bottle of water to keep 4x4 wet or to use for a sucking chest one to create a flutter valve dressing) Sheers to cut any clothing you may need to.

        I have never been a fan of quick clot. I once saw a flight medic pack a wound with dirt. I guess it's what he was taught while deployed overseas in combat. The guys leg exploded under pressure after a mine shaft collapsed on him while he was trying to get out. The medic packed his leg with dirt to stop the bleeding. The surgeon was PISSED!!! Asked why he did it. Said he had no other option. The surgeon shook his hand and said good job you saved this mans life. He was pissed because he had to clean the crap out of his leg now because of all the debris.

        Pretty badass if you ask me. Just something I always remember if you can't control the bleeding a last resort.
        Last edited by Thesource161; 11-02-2015, 1:57 AM. Reason: Spelling sucks!

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        • #5
          Ein
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2015
          • 20

          Use the second one and your range should have a first aid kit.

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          • #6
            Squidward
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 1779

            The issues I have with pre-made kits are that they often include items that you have no training on and the prices.. I think you can probably make a kit better geared for your level of training (although I obviously I don't know what that may be) and purposes and do so at a better price.

            I'd also include something to debride wounds. And, make sure your communication systems (yep, more than one) are fully functioning.

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            • #7
              bshot
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 1043

              Good tips everyone! I will have to look in to first aid classes and get caught up on the latest and greatest techniques. That Dark Angel kit is pricey. I going to see if I can assemble a similar kit for cheaper. Any other advice is welcomed.

              Thanks.

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              • #8
                Librarian
                Admin and Poltergeist
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 44650

                See also Kelly Grayson's recommended kit in this article - http://www.ambulancedriverfiles.com/...-fort-worth-3/
                ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                • #9
                  EspoMan
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 1618

                  I just carry a basic first aid kit and a quick clot trauma kit.
                  Living in the free State of Nevada

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                  • #10
                    Maltese Falcon
                    Ordo Militaris Templi
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 6687

                    Add one of these (and hope you never need it!)



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                    • #11
                      Stan08
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1207

                      Need to read this event: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1080843

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                      Last edited by Stan08; 11-02-2015, 11:04 AM.
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                      • #12
                        huntercf
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 3114

                        Originally posted by bshot
                        I often shoot at BLM and can be a hours away from the nearest hospital. Do you carry a first aid kit to the range/blm? What would you recommend I include in my kit?

                        I am considering one of these options below or making one myself but not sure if it's worth the cost savings, if any. Thanks in advance.



                        Your Trauma Kit with QuikClot and SWAT-T Tourniquet contains:
                        1 Pair of Antiseptic Gloves - for protection of both patient and care giver.
                        4 Antiseptic Wipes - for wound cleaning and protection.
                        1 QuikClot Advanced Clotting Sponge - 3.5" x 3.5" Mesh Bag 25g
                        1 SWAT-T Stretch-Wrap-And-Tuck Tourniquet 1 Sterile Gauze Pad 5" x 9"
                        1 Roll of Gauze Bandage 3" x 4.1 Yards
                        1 Roll of Medical Tape - for holding dressings in place.
                        1 Kit Bag, with easy-open zipper and heavy-duty locking hook for secure storage where you need it.

                        The Trauma Kit with QuikClot & SWAT-T Tourniquet is designed to stop bleeding at the scene so more advanced care can be sought later.

                        With this kit you will be prepared to save lives.

                        Or

                        Be prepared. Carry a trauma kit. Stop the Bleed and start the breathing. Every Day Trauma Training and easy to use Trauma Kits and Individual First Aid Kits (IFAK)
                        Based on personal experience: Bandaids, gauze pads in 2" and 4", gauze wrap, maybe some alcohol wipes.

                        I was shooting with some friends and one of their dads when one of my friends got to close to a scope on my 416 barrett, he ended up with a gash about 1" long above his eye and it starting bleeding quite a bit. I broke out the first aid kit and patched him up, then I asked his dad if he still wanted to shoot the 416...heck yeah was the response.

                        No sense in leaving the range early if you don't have to. Of course his wife was pissed at me for a few months, awe well.
                        Gun control is a 1" group at 500 yds!

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                        • #13
                          navin r
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 774

                          Good post from Stan08. Yes, I always have a basic first aid kit w/ me at the range, + a couple quickclots in it. It's red w/ a white cross, I set it out where anyone can see it, and my buddies know about it. Hopefully I'll never have to try to use it.
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                          • #14
                            crackerman
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 2441

                            PPPffffttt What does this guy know?

                            Hint: Its a metric ****ton of info he knows!

                            Take a good class, not just reading online too. Its a start but barely. I am a former EMT and even i need refreshers.

                            Oh just to let you know nothing prepares you for working a GSW (especially a kid) until you do it.

                            Would you agree Crispian?


                            Originally posted by Stan08
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                            • #15
                              DCNB
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 14

                              From a combat medic point of view, the diagram is spot on on where to use the different trauma dressings/products. If you don't understand the diagram, get an education on TCCC or civilian combat casualty care C-TECC (www.C-TECC.org) which is more relevant to most of the folks on this forum. Just having fancy high speed medical supplies doesn't mean much if you don't know how to do a proper patient assessment and how to treat the injuries you find.

                              Some finer points to add to the conversation:

                              -The hemostatic agents (like Quick Clot or Celox) are not magic, you still have to know how to properly pack a wound Mainly they're for very large wounds that are non-compressible (ie. in a location where a Tourniquet cannot be applied to stop the bleeding) aka junctional wounds (neck, shoulder, armpit, groin, anterior hip, scalp, etc). You should NOT generally pack abdominal wounds unless you really know what you're doing....

                              -Israeli dressings are good, but there are some newer multifunction dressings like the Oles that gives you additional treatment options (the absorbent pad has gauze that can be pulled out and used for wound packing).

                              -Get a decent occlusive dressing like Halo or Hyfin chest seals that come in a 2 pack b/c if it made one hole in the chest, chances are there is an exit wound somewhere that also needs to be covered to treat the sucking chest wound. There are some newer ones (the older vented chest seals were awful) that are vented to prevent development of a Tension Pneumothorax (PTX), probably more of a consideration if your transport times to definitive care will be longer and you don't have the ability to needle a chest to decompress a tension PTX.

                              -Make sure you get a couple of PROPER tourniquets (the SWAT T is just a big wide rubber band and does NOT provide enough compression to control a large arterial bleed, though it can provide minor compression and is useful like a ace wrap). The latest generation SOFT-Wide's are the easiest to use, MET's generate more pressure but can be harder to get into place on yourself w/ one hand. CAT TQ's have a tendency to break (being made of plastic). Watch out for crappy knockoff TQ's (airsofters love em), order from a reputable supplier and not eBay or you'll not know your TQ is garbage until something really bad happens.

                              My minimum recipe for a solid range IFAK (you are going shooting so there is a chance of penetrating trauma so a standard first aid kit will be woefully inadequate to address these type of injuries):

                              Key components:
                              1-2 SOFT-W TQ's*
                              Halo or Hyfin Chest seal (2 pack)
                              1-2 Oles Modular Dressings
                              Vacuum packed/compressed Gauze
                              Gloves
                              Tape
                              Clothing/dressing cutter (rescue hooks preferred)
                              Small bag of an assortment of normal band aids, stern strips and a small tube of antibiotic ointment (Neosporin works well for brass burns)
                              Telia dressings or Xeroform gauze (non stick dressing)

                              Bonus items:
                              2 x 3" 14 ga IV needle*
                              NP Airway or Oral Airway*
                              SAM Splint and a roll of ACE Wrap (love these things, you can even fashion an expedient c-spine collar in a pinch out of one)
                              Small Bottle of sterile contact lens saline solution (to irrigate wounds and to treat stuff getting into eyes)
                              Eye Shield x 2
                              Some big Safety Pins
                              Disposable mini Surgical Wound Stapler*
                              Dermabond*
                              IV Setup and fluids * (note this is WAAAAYYYYY down at the bottom of my list)

                              (*if you have the training to use one)

                              TQ's should be mounted on the outside of a pouch/bag for fast access. All of the key items fit into a 6"x3"x2" med pouch, more room needed if you stock the bonus items.

                              Get some training on using this stuff, it'll come in handy one day (even if you're not at the shooting range, think accident w/ the car, camping, home/garage, work, natural disaster, etc.). Have an idea of where the nearest higher level of medical care/Trauma center is and how to get there and some sort of evacuation plan in mind. Comms to call for help is always good!

                              PS - For what it's worth, I do this stuff for a living and I'm involved in the training of combat medics.

                              Originally posted by Stan08
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                              Last edited by DCNB; 11-03-2015, 2:04 AM.

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