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  • AdamM
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 850

    BLM Shooting

    Planning on going to some BLM land near the hollister area on saturday to go shooting with my friend. Should I be worried about my OLL? Definitely dont want to have it confiscated or anything of the sort
  • #2
    AaronHorrocks
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1944

    I hear you can't shoot any sort of "assualt weapon" - even if it's registered.

    Which is probably why there have been several ARs consifcated while shooting on BLM areas.
    Originally posted by nick
    Are there any times when you don't have a loaded firearm within reach?
    Originally posted by M. Sage
    I support violence against communists.

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    • #3
      AdamM
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 850

      So I should probably just leave it at home?

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      • #4
        ohsmily
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2005
        • 8951

        Originally posted by AaronHorrocks
        I hear you can't shoot any sort of "assualt weapon" - even if it's registered.

        Which is probably why there have been several ARs consifcated while shooting on BLM areas.
        That is not their current policy. You can shoot OLLs. There is always a risk than any gun can be confiscated.
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        • #5
          AdamM
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 850

          Originally posted by ohsmily
          That is not their current policy. You can shoot OLLs. There is always a risk than any gun can be confiscated.
          Whatre the chances of an OLL being confiscated though? If it were you, would you still take it and shoot it or just leave it at home?

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          • #6
            sorensen440
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2007
            • 8611

            Originally posted by AdamM
            Whatre the chances of an OLL being confiscated though? If it were you, would you still take it and shoot it or just leave it at home?
            I would and have taken mine
            "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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            • #7
              Ironchef
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 2313

              Adam, dont' worry about it. THere's plenty of ppl who have shot OLLs up there without incident (we'd have heard by now). ALso, the odds of being accosted by DFG or a sheriff are slim. I just went there to Panoche and we spent a good 7 hours there with only two contacts..ppl looking for a good turn out to shoot on.

              Also, their official word is just no illegal weapons. Bring the Sac PD memo and other pertinent documentation and shoot in peace. I'm headed to some state park at Konocti Harbor on 1/1 with some OLLs and many others as their firearms rules are no different..less spoken of actually.
              Fleeing the PRK on 3/8/09!!

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              • #8
                AdamM
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 850

                Thanks, Ironchef-

                WHere can I get a copy of that Sac PD memo? I saw it on here somewhere I think but I dont remember where.

                I also plan on taking copy of the flowchart and a print out of the penal code

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                • #9
                  Ironchef
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 2313

                  See here.

                  That and the AW flowchart should do it. If it doesn't work, nothing will.
                  Fleeing the PRK on 3/8/09!!

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                  • #10
                    AaronHorrocks
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 1944

                    Originally posted by ohsmily
                    That is not their current policy. You can shoot OLLs. There is always a risk than any gun can be confiscated.
                    I didn't say anything about OLLs. And BTW, OLLs have been confiscated by BLM agents.

                    Federal lands managed by the BLM in California are generally closed to the possession of assault weapons, as defined by state law
                    Originally posted by nick
                    Are there any times when you don't have a loaded firearm within reach?
                    Originally posted by M. Sage
                    I support violence against communists.

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                    • #11
                      AdamM
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 850

                      Originally posted by Ironchef
                      See here.

                      That and the AW flowchart should do it. If it doesn't work, nothing will.
                      Thanks Ironchef

                      Its printing right now

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                      • #12
                        M1A Rifleman
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 3691

                        Call that regional office, speak with an LEO and ask if there are any concerns. Last I checked, that area allows all legal firearms, however no tracer, incidiary, or steel core ammo.
                        The only thing that is worse than an idiot, is someone who argues with one.

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                        • #13
                          ohsmily
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 8951

                          Originally posted by AaronHorrocks
                          I didn't say anything about OLLs.I did. I also addressed your comment about assault weapons stating that that isn't their policy anymore. And BTW, OLLs have been confiscated by BLM agents. I know. Ignorant BLM agents confiscating legal firearms. No convictions have resulted solely for a legally configured OLL.

                          Federal lands managed by the BLM in California are generally closed to the possession of assault weapons, as defined by state law?????? WTH???
                          http://www.blm.gov/ca/dir/pdfs/2003/im/CAIM2003-001.pdf
                          Did you even bother reading the more recent letter? It states the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you stated about using AWs on BLM land. Unless I am missing something, you get a big FAIL for today for spreading FUD.
                          Persons have the permission of the BLM to possess and use firearms, including lawfully
                          registered assault weapons, on BLM-administered public lands except when prohibited
                          by other applicable laws and regulations.

                          P.C. 12285

                          (c) A person who has registered an assault weapon or registered a .50 BMG rifle under this section may possess it only under any of the following conditions unless a permit allowing additional uses is first obtained under Section 12286: (6) While on publicly owned land if the possession and use of a firearm described in Section 12276,12276.1, or 12278, is specifically permitted by the managing agency of the land.
                          Last edited by ohsmily; 12-11-2008, 9:26 AM.
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                          • #14
                            Ironchef
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 2313

                            Originally posted by M1A Rifleman
                            Call that regional office, speak with an LEO and ask if there are any concerns. Last I checked, that area allows all legal firearms, however no tracer, incidiary, or steel core ammo.
                            Yep, and when you call the regional office, like I did, they refer you to their sight after attempting to recite what they think it says.
                            Fleeing the PRK on 3/8/09!!

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                            • #15
                              M1A Rifleman
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 3691

                              Originally posted by Ironchef
                              Yep, and when you call the regional office, like I did, they refer you to their sight after attempting to recite what they think it says.
                              I believe the 2002 BLM memo above has been superceeded by the CA-2003-49 Memo that states AW's are allowed and without the need to provide a certificate of insurance.
                              Last edited by M1A Rifleman; 01-03-2011, 11:32 AM.
                              The only thing that is worse than an idiot, is someone who argues with one.

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