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  • Rottentofu
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 2189

    This is frustrating...

    I love my relatives and friends. That's why I do my best to bring to their awareness the violences that are happening around us everyday. I don't straight out recommend them to acquire a firearm to defend themselves if the need ever arises. I simply throw out suggestions such as pepper spray, security cameras, security system, or something as simple as getting a baseball bat. I was, however, met with an unreasonable amount of resistance. I was called paranoid. My friends find it difficult to believe that a violent event could ever happen to them, much less an event that would require them to defend themselves with a deadly weapon. They simply refuse to believe, thinking bad things only happen in movies and to other people.

    I am frustrated because I actually cared. The last thing I wanted is to wake up one morning to find out that someone I care about dies from a violent encountered and that death could've been avoided had that person heeded my advices. I would hate myself for not doing something about it.

    I feel like I should do something, but don't know what else to do.
  • #2
    Agent 0range
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1040

    Ask them if they think you're paranoid for wearing a seatbelt. You probably don't expect to get into an accident, but prepare for the possibility by wearing it in the car.
    Originally posted by Mezcalfud
    Because a Glock looks great in the case and then when you take it home it feels like you're holding a Costco pack of Kielbasa.

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    • #3
      DDM4556
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jun 2014
      • 2601

      Originally posted by Agent 0range
      Ask them if they think you're paranoid for wearing a seatbelt. You probably don't expect to get into an accident, but prepare for the possibility by wearing it in the car.
      This^

      After that, give up. You can't force them to protect themselves. You can't inject someone with logic. You've done your part and the rest is up to the man upstairs.
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      • #4
        BigStiCK
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 3750

        Sheep.
        Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought.

        ~Pope John Paul II

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        • #5
          davegonewild
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Apr 2012
          • 1190

          Maybe try visiting them late one night with a ski mask.

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          • #6
            Oceanbob
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2010
            • 12720

            OP.

            You're a good man and a concerned citizen.

            Thank you

            Bob.
            May the Bridges I burn light the way.

            Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

            Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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            • #7
              Walking Fire
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1969

              They don't drive cars, they use Green Mass transit that uses no fossil fuels, Or ride the little yellow bus and wear helmets...
              NRA Life Member.

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              • #8
                bountyhunter
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 3423

                Originally posted by Rottentofu
                I love my relatives and friends. That's why I do my best to bring to their awareness the violences that are happening around us everyday. I don't straight out recommend them to acquire a firearm to defend themselves if the need ever arises. I simply throw out suggestions such as pepper spray, security cameras, security system, or something as simple as getting a baseball bat. I was, however, met with an unreasonable amount of resistance. I was called paranoid. My friends find it difficult to believe that a violent event could ever happen to them, much less an event that would require them to defend themselves with a deadly weapon. They simply refuse to believe, thinking bad things only happen in movies and to other people.
                It's called denial. Most people can only cope with the world by building up a buffer of denial around themselves and using it to shield themselves. It's effective right up until something bad happens.

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                • #9
                  NorCalFocus
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 3913

                  Simply remind them that murder victims are only victims once.

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                  • #10
                    Divernhunter
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2010
                    • 8753

                    You cannot save everyone from their own stupidity.
                    Try and then let it go and do not beat yourself up over it.

                    Something to consider. When something strikes close to home for them they will come running for help. Then you can help them since they will be ready then to accept your advise/help. That is the way sheep are. You cannot change it.

                    I have had people tell me I have enough ammo and guns to start a war. I politely tell them "No but I can keep one going".
                    A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
                    NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
                    SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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                    • #11
                      TRICKSTER
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 12438

                      Do they have any type of insurance policy? If they do, ask them why.
                      If they still can't figure it out, well, you tried.


                      Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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                      • #12
                        Bigtwin
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 2639

                        Some people just can't be reached. You did what you could do. There is likely not much more you can do to wake them up.
                        NRA MEMBER

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                        • #13
                          Rottentofu
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 2189

                          Thanks for the encouragement guys. I just need to get it off my chest. I will keep trying though. Least I can do is talk to them.

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                          • #14
                            RandyD
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 6673

                            My first thought is the probability of being a victim of violence is minimal, but that can change. My second thought is, let your friends have a right to believe whatever they want to believe. Further, you need to respect their choices and let them assume whatever risks they want to assume.
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                            • #15
                              jdouglas
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 1101

                              Do they have fire extinguishers in their houses? Have they EVER actually needed one? Might as well throw those out too. After all that's what the fire department is for..
                              WARNING: THE ABOVE POST MAY CONTAIN EXCESSIVE USE OF SARCASM.

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