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  • DonaldBabbett
    Banned
    • Aug 2014
    • 828

    Adopt the term "self-loading".

    Some gun makers and members of the gun press already use the word "self-loading" in place of "semi-automatic" and other words containing "auto". I even prefer "self-loading" over "auto-loading". The point is to avoid the term "auto". There are idiots on the left who don't know the difference between "semiautomatic" and "automatic". Whenever they hear "auto" ring in their ears, they automatically have visions of machine guns in their dim-witted heads. "Auto" is a pejorative to the ears of the anti-gun camp.

    self-loading = auto-loading = semi = semi-auto = semi-automatic


    self-loading DOES NOT EQUAL automatic


    self-loading DOES NOT EQUAL fully-automatic


    self-loading DOES NOT EQUAL machine gun



    "Self-loading" sounds relatively "nice" and "non-threatening" to gun-grabbing minds.
    Last edited by DonaldBabbett; 10-19-2015, 9:36 PM.
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    galaxius
    Member
    • Jul 2015
    • 428

    Originally posted by DonaldBabbett
    Some gun makers and members of the gun press already use the word "self-loading". I even prefer "self-loading" over "auto-loading". The point is to avoid the term "auto". There are idiots on the left who don't know the difference between "semiautomatic" and "automatic". Whenever they hear "auto" ring in their ears, they automatically have visions of machine guns in their dim-witted heads. "Auto" is a pejorative to the ears of the anti-gun camp.

    self-loading = auto-loading = semi = semi-auto = semi-automatic


    self-loading DOES NOT EQUAL automatic


    self-loading DOES NOT EQUAL fully-automatic


    self-loading DOES NOT EQUAL machine gun
    Antis: "AK-15s are self-loading rifles, no civilian needs these weapons which can self load 30 magazine clips in under 30 seconds. All you need is manual loading to hunt."

    Edit: I do appreciate the thought though. We need more people to use the correct terms and fix the "scary" verbiage that the antis have propagated. Another good one is to start calling "high cap magazines" what they really are...standard capacity, and any magazines that are neutered should be called "limited capacity".
    Last edited by galaxius; 10-19-2015, 9:39 PM.

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    • #3
      AreWeFree
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 4558

      Originally posted by galaxius
      Antis: "AK-15s are self-loading rifles, no civilian needs these weapons which can self load 30 magazine clips in under 30 seconds. All you need is manual loading to hunt."

      Edit: I do appreciate the thought though. We need more people to use the correct terms and fix the "scary" verbiage that the antis have propagated. Another good one is to start calling "high cap magazines" what they really are...standard capacity, and any magazines that are neutered should be called "limited capacity".
      +1, I prefer the term mechanically interrupted manual firing non-self loading safety locked low capacity half featured registered non-prohibited defense sporting arm.

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      • #4
        Anunnaki
        Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 244

        Originally posted by galaxius
        Antis: "AK-15s are self-loading rifles, no civilian needs these weapons which can self load 30 magazine clips in under 30 seconds. All you need is manual loading to hunt."

        Edit: I do appreciate the thought though. We need more people to use the correct terms and fix the "scary" verbiage that the antis have propagated. Another good one is to start calling "high cap magazines" what they really are...standard capacity, and any magazines that are neutered should be called "limited capacity".
        I just politely remind them that the 2nd doesn't protect our right to hunt. It protects our right to arm ourselves against enemies foreign and domestic.

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        • #5
          xrMike
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2006
          • 7841

          Originally posted by DonaldBabbett
          "Self-loading" sounds relatively "nice" and "non-threatening" to gun-grabbing minds.
          I agree with your point. At first.

          But then another voice inside me (one of many) thinks: Why should I have to change the words and the language that I use, out of fear of what idiots, the unknowledgeable, or outright gun-grabbers might think?

          F' em, I'm very tired of giving ground all the time.

          I think "semi-auto" is fine, but sure, "self-loading" is OK too.

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          • #6
            bohoki
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 20821

            i remember a time when there were basically 2 types of handguns revolvers and automatics


            sorry the terminology is out there

            i would actually like the terminology to simplify to "automatic"

            since we generally refer to machine guns as full automatic

            heck the term "machine gun" is even a bit weird i mean all guns are machines and were made on machines so i am a bit confused how it came to mean a gun that automatically cycles all steps of the firing stages

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            • #7
              Epaphroditus
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2013
              • 4888

              The 2A acknowledges our right to keep and bear arms - for whatever purpose we desires as free peoples.
              CA firearms laws timeline BLM land maps

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              • #8
                Dano3467
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2013
                • 7381

                OP would be a great idea, if only we could fix Stupid, but as we know from passed experience, the left prove time an again they are just too stupid to see any difference.

                Nice thought, will give you a pass on this one

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                • #9
                  DonaldBabbett
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 828

                  Originally posted by Dano3467
                  OP would be a great idea, if only we could fix Stupid, but as we know from passed experience, the left prove time an again they are just too stupid to see any difference.

                  Nice thought, will give you a pass on this one
                  'Self-cycling' or 'self-chambering' might even be better than 'self-loading'. Technically, 'load' can mean 'place a round in the chamber', mechanically or by hand. It can also mean "place ammunition in the gun" which is usually done by hand even on machine guns.

                  "Continuous firing" could replace "automatic" or "fully-automatic" as in machine guns.

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                  • #10
                    Merc1138
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 19742

                    Oh god, self loading? The guns load themselves!

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                    • #11
                      onelonehorseman
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 4888

                      Originally posted by bohoki
                      i remember a time when there were basically 2 types of handguns revolvers and automatics


                      sorry the terminology is out there

                      i would actually like the terminology to simplify to "automatic"

                      since we generally refer to machine guns as full automatic

                      heck the term "machine gun" is even a bit weird i mean all guns are machines and were made on machines so i am a bit confused how it came to mean a gun that automatically cycles all steps of the firing stages
                      ^^ true this; ACP = Automatic Colt Pistol
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                      • #12
                        titan2
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 908

                        Originally posted by galaxius
                        Antis: "AK-15s are self-loading rifles, no civilian needs these weapons which can self load 30 magazine clips in under 30 seconds. All you need is manual loading to hunt."

                        Edit: I do appreciate the thought though. We need more people to use the correct terms and fix the "scary" verbiage that the antis have propagated. Another good one is to start calling "high cap magazines" what they really are...standard capacity, and any magazines that are neutered should be called "limited capacity".
                        Amen Brother....come to Jesus!!!
                        Last edited by titan2; 10-20-2015, 10:08 AM.
                        UT - Done
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                        NV - Done
                        CA - Done

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                        • #13
                          Aldemar
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                          • Dec 2007
                          • 4707

                          How about "Handicapped Modified". A person with the use of only one arm would not burdened by having to operate a bolt or slide, putting him on equal footing with us who have the use of both arms. Since they are so concerned with everyone being equal, this would solve that argument.
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                          • #14
                            onelonehorseman
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 4888

                            Originally posted by Aldemar
                            How about "Handicapped Modified". A person with the use of only one arm would not burdened by having to operate a bolt or slide, putting him on equal footing with us who have the use of both arms. Since they are so concerned with everyone being equal, this would solve that argument.
                            That was applied to the use of auto knives (switchblades) in CA but only certain handicapped persons, other than LE and ER personnel, have the exemption.

                            Couldn't the libs use this as a limited exemption for a very small number of people to the exclusion of the rest of us?
                            Last edited by onelonehorseman; 10-20-2015, 10:46 AM.
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                            • #15
                              barrage
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 3351

                              The useful idiots in this country already think guns go around shooting people by themselves. I don't know how much good convincing them guns have achieved self-awareness and autonomy by describing them as "self loading" is going to help with that situation.

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