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  • AK all day
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 2977

    Message from my Univeristy President "Ongoing Gun Violnce on U.S. Campuses"

    prohibit guns, but the issue of gun ownership regulation and the number of guns in the country still needs to be addressed in order to stop senseless violence on our campuses and elsewhere. Our campuses and the nation at large seem still to be divided on whether more guns (for public safety officers or citizens) or fewer guns on campuses will stem the tide of violence. College and university presidents are nearly universally opposed to more guns on campuses. Why? Among other reasons, because of the increased casualties that could occur if additional guns and gun owners are added to the chaos of an unfolding situation involving innocent victims and bystanders, someone set on doing them harm, and trained officers set on stopping that person.

    We can discuss and debate these issues, and we should: this growing epidemic of gun violence in our nation demands thoughtful, educated discourse, and an educational setting and community is an important forum for this dialogue. We can play out scenarios on our own campus and ensure we are as prepared as possible if an active shooter situation unfolds
    "The purpose of living is to find something worth dying for"
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    sl0re10
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2013
    • 7242

    Online Universities. Avoid false allegations of rape AND being used by left as a sacrifice to push up gun casualties.

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    • #3
      POLICESTATE
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Apr 2009
      • 18185

      this growing epidemic of gun violence in our nation demands thoughtful, educated discourse, and an educational setting and community is an important forum for this dialogue.
      Yeah forget that Mr. University of Redlands guy. The educational community has proven time and again that they have no understanding of what individual liberty even means.

      No the dialogue needs to be around more appropriate sentencing for criminals, as well as giving individuals in this country a real means of using self-defense to protect their right to life.

      Unless Ralph Kuncl and his ilk are ready to personally guarantee my safety they can stuff it.
      -POLICESTATE,
      In the name of the State, and of the School, and of the Infallible Science


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      • #4
        ENTHUSIAST
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 4440

        The intellectuals plan to save lives in an active shooter situation is to send text messages! LOL!

        Liberals in Academia are the dumbest people on the planet those who can't do teach as they say.

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        • #5
          L84CABO
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2009
          • 8623

          Kinda makes you wonder about the quality of the education you are receiving...doesn't it.

          Sorry, couldn't resist.

          What is Ralphs plan to ensure the safety of the students? Is the Bulldog alert system all he's got? Why isn't some of the student tuition being used to fund armed security on campus...or more security?

          Perhaps you could ask him to elaborate on the "increased casualties" that could occur if the school allowed students and teachers to be able to defend themselves? What type of increase is he talking about compared to a gun free zone where killers can pick off people unopposed? Moreover, does he truly believe that if one of the students in that room at Umpqua College had had a gun on them, that there would be more deaths than what occurred?

          Ask him if he were huddled in the corner of his office while a mad gunman came through his building executing people...if in the final moments of his life while he was staring down the barrel of the killers gun, thinking about his life and the family he is leaving behind...in those moments, would he not want some means to be able to defend himself?

          And if he says no, he's either a liar or an idiot...and somebody that dumb has no business running a university.
          "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

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          • #6
            pacrat
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2014
            • 10270

            L84CABO asked

            Why isn't some of the student tuition being used to fund armed security on campus...or more security?
            Simply follow the news for the last couple of years. Listen to the outrage of students and taxpayers alike at the exorbident salary increases and perk packages of Administrators. Junkets to Hawaii for seminars on the students and tax dimes. etc etc etc While classes continue to be cut from curriculum and class sizes increase.

            Administrators paychecks and perks are much more important than student safety.

            If the Liberal academics that run schools sacrifice a few students a month so they can further their anti 2A agenda. That's just the price we pay for their agenda.

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            • #7
              IVC
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2010
              • 17594

              Originally posted by AK all day
              ...; and finally, our welcoming and tolerant academic cultures, seem to make colleges especially vulnerable to gun violence.
              Yeah, sure. "Welcoming" and "tolerant" the NY-style: "If you believe that people have the right to own AWs and large capacity magazines, you're not welcome here" - governor Cuomo.

              Funny how "tolerance" and "welcome" is extended only to those who think the same way. Show some discourse and you are labeled "a hater," therefore it's okay to be intolerant and hostile towards you. With the raise in political correctness, universities have become some of the least tolerant and welcoming places. Sure you'll do fine if you differ in color of your skin, but try challenging any of the establishment thoughts...
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              • #8
                POLICESTATE
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Apr 2009
                • 18185

                Originally posted by pacrat
                Simply follow the news for the last couple of years. Listen to the outrage of students and taxpayers alike at the exorbident salary increases and perk packages of Administrators. Junkets to Hawaii for seminars on the students and tax dimes. etc etc etc While classes continue to be cut from curriculum and class sizes increase.

                Administrators paychecks and perks are much more important than student safety.

                If the Liberal academics that run schools sacrifice a few students a month so they can further their anti 2A agenda. That's just the price we pay for their agenda.
                Yeah no ****! It's not like it's their kids getting killed.
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                • #9
                  Baconator
                  Bacon makes it better
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 9547

                  In the beautiful town of Redlands, where just this morning a dead body was found behind the continuation school.

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                  • #10
                    Khromo
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 742

                    The large majority of "academics" have spent their entire life in a school, first sitting in a classroom, then sitting in another classroom, then standing in the front of another classroom. They convince each other that they are the wisest, the most profoundly intelligent life on the planet, without ever subjecting themselves to the rigors of life in the real world, among adults.

                    It would be foolish to expect that anyone who has spent their entire life within the insular "academic bubble" could ever understand the harsh realities of life.

                    The person who spends their entire life surrounded by children will never understand the world in which adults live.

                    United States academics can't even teach children to read, write, and do simple arithmetic anymore. It is a corrupt, decayed culture, devolving into some unionized third world nightmare of idiot kids being spewed into a global economy for which they are very poorly prepared.
                    "Self defense is not a fashion show. A defensive handgun is not a little black dress, or a purse."
                    Remember, the overwhelming majority of anti-gun thinkers are not stupid enough to be "afraid of guns." They are afraid of stupid/immature/crazy psycho people with guns.
                    And as always, being friendly, courteous, and respectful is the easiest way to bend people to your will.

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                    • #11
                      riderr
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 6632

                      Originally posted by AK all day
                      We can play out scenarios on our own campus and ensure we are as prepared as possible if an active shooter situation unfolds on our campus. (Watch for an e-mail reminder about the Bulldog Alert emergency mass notification test scheduled for next Thursday – including instructions on opting into that system, if you have not already.) And we can watch out for and take care of each other, be alert for suspicious persons or activity on our campus, and not be afraid to ask for help if we see or hear people or things that make us feel unsafe.
                      I would certainly ask him a very logical question. How all these measures can help the students in the classroom at a gunpoint?

                      Originally posted by AK all day
                      College and university presidents are nearly universally opposed to more guns on campuses. Why? Among other reasons, because of the increased casualties that could occur if additional guns and gun owners are added to the chaos of an unfolding situation involving innocent victims and bystanders, someone set on doing them harm, and trained officers set on stopping that person.
                      So, his solution is to put one trained police officer in each class room?
                      Last edited by riderr; 10-12-2015, 3:50 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Wicked Pete
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2010
                        • 5182

                        I went to Contra Costa College. San Pablo, CA.

                        There was shooting in front of the cafeteria.

                        You had to step over the blood stain to get to class.

                        No big deal?

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                        • #13
                          gumby
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 2324

                          OP,
                          I regards to the UCSB killings, inform your school president that the first 3 to die were by knife. The next 3 by bullets and the 6 others that were killed that year in Santa Barbara were also by knife. 75% of all the murders in Santa Barbara county (2014), were by knife. Do we outlaw steak?

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                          • #14
                            EspoMan
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 1618

                            Originally posted by ENTHUSIAST
                            The intellectuals plan to save lives in an active shooter situation is to send text messages! LOL!

                            Liberals in Academia are the dumbest people on the planet those who can't do teach as they say.
                            This. Pasada Community College has a full police department on Campus but the administration doesn't allow them to carry guns. WTF are they supposed to do if some nut job comes in with a gun and starts shooting? Just stupid. I HATE liberals. Number one enemy of the state.
                            Living in the free State of Nevada

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                            • #15
                              Ronin2
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 5563

                              The very people screaming about gun violence are the ones that want to protect the rights of the criminals and the privacy of the mentally ill. They still think that if they pass laws to remove the guns, and therefore temptation and means, that will somehow make all the bad people stay good.

                              These people still blame the inanimate objects and NOT the people for these horrific actions. They refuse to believe anyone could possible not be just like them! Society has gotten too easy and soft, the educational system strayed too far from critical thinking.
                              Last edited by Ronin2; 10-13-2015, 11:01 AM.

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