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  • 2nd Mass
    Veteran Member
    • May 2013
    • 3212

    Gun Deaths Are Mostly Suicides

    Gun Deaths Are Mostly Suicides

    Many of the gun-control measures that politicians propose to reduce the number of homicides and mass shootings would have a limited effect on gun suicides.

    Efforts to ban so-called assault weapons or to reduce the number of bullets that could be loaded into a gun at once would probably not make suicide any less likely. But other measures meant to prevent gun homicides might have an effect on gun suicides, particularly those designed to identify and help people with mental health needs.

    Mental illness, which may contribute to mass shootings, is a clear risk factor for suicide.


    Bookmark for those that need more ammo for their debates.
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    PaIadin
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2013
    • 1456

    All you ask those people is the OVERALL suicide rate that can be decreased with gun control and present the FBI NCVS defensive gun use statistic which is about 50,000 per year.
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    • #3
      8886
      Banned
      • Aug 2011
      • 1730

      From what I've heard, 2/3rds of gun deaths are from suicide. So sayeth some gun control guy during a recent NPR interview...



      "Assault weapon" deaths are single digits in % points on the overall scale said the counter argument guy.
      Last edited by 8886; 10-10-2015, 10:42 PM.

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      • #4
        JagerDog
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2011
        • 15057

        I studied the Ozzie stats a bit some years ago. Principle gun related deaths affected were suicide rates. Suicide rate satyed pretty flat, they just chose differen methods.
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        • #5
          Ripon83
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2011
          • 6686

          The majority of gun related murders are gang related. We have a right to assembly but I don't see them challenging that one?
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          • #6
            fighterpilot562
            I’m Ugly and I’m Proud
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2012
            • 47060

            I had a libbie tell me if guns were banned, there would be less suicides. And I told her, if someone really wanted to off themselves, not having a gun not gonna stop them.

            "I wanna kill myself, oh, i have no gun, guess I can't now...."

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            • #7
              robodeer
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 561

              Originally posted by 8886
              "Assault weapon" deaths are single digits in % points on the overall scale said the counter argument guy.

              Obama told one of the agencies to look up the effects of banning rifles (ARs?) so he could use it for his push after sandy hook. Turns out that there would be no real effect. I don't r,ember that being on any of the news channels.
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              • #8
                Swagman00
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 4149

                Riddle me this. Terminal illnesses aside, if a democrat wants to ban so many guns due to deaths by firearms including suicide then why do they pass a bill to allow suicide by another method?
                Anyway...here's a dearth of reasoning to ponder: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Guns

                Originally posted by movie zombie
                and you guys wonder why women are fed up with bad behavior?!

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                • #9
                  toby
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 10576

                  A gun is a gun is a gun and guns bring death, they see it no other way.

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                  • #10
                    timdps
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 3473

                    "Gun Deaths Are Mostly Suicides"

                    And 90% of the homicides are gang on gang shootings.

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                    • #11
                      spyde12
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 1647

                      Originally posted by robodeer
                      Obama told one of the agencies to look up the effects of banning rifles (ARs?) so he could use it for his push after sandy hook. Turns out that there would be no real effect. I don't r,ember that being on any of the news channels.
                      Do you have a source because it would be a good one for me to bookmark.

                      OP, good post.

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                      • #12
                        robodeer
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 561

                        Gun Deaths Are Mostly Suicides

                        I think I saw it on one of those gun blogs if memory serves (TTAG or TFB I think).

                        Edit. Not the source, but I think the study said something to the effect of this: most gun crimes are from handguns, and that banning semi-auto rifles wouldn't have much of an effect - only an outright ban where you could get both legal and illegal guns. All of them. I'll see if I can find it later on.

                        Last edited by robodeer; 10-11-2015, 6:30 PM.
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                        • #13
                          k1dude
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2009
                          • 15228

                          What I want to know is do other countries compile their statistics the same way we do?

                          The left keeps claiming we're number 1 in the world in gun deaths. We all know that's a flat out lie no matter how the statistics are compiled. But, I suspect it's even more of a lie than we'll ever know depending on how the statistics are compiled.

                          In the US, we include all gun deaths whether they are suicides, homicides, accidental, or police shootings. Do other nations compile it the same way? I doubt it. I suspect other nations are ONLY giving us homicide numbers which makes their gun death numbers far far less than ours.
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                          • #14
                            vliberatore
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 10055

                            Originally posted by PaIadin
                            All you ask those people is the OVERALL suicide rate that can be decreased with gun control and present the FBI NCVS defensive gun use statistic which is about 50,000 per year.
                            The CDC's study has it at 500k+ per year
                            Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                            Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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                            • #15
                              sl0re10
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 7242

                              Originally posted by 8886
                              From what I've heard, 2/3rds of gun deaths are from suicide. So sayeth some gun control guy during a recent NPR interview...



                              "Assault weapon" deaths are single digits in % points on the overall scale said the counter argument guy.
                              who probably thinks suicide should be legal!

                              'all rifles' homicides are 3%. AW / black rifle are so rare they don't break them out...
                              Last edited by sl0re10; 10-11-2015, 9:41 PM.

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