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  • INFIDEL151
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 624

    PPT TRANSFER FEE

    How much is a PPT transfer fee for a handgun? I ask some local gunstores and a lot says 35 but one gunstore says 40 dollars? I'm confused, which one is the right fee?
  • #2
    Bigedski
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 976

    $35, SET BY LAW

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    • #3
      7 Sprig
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jan 2011
      • 793

      And out the store telling you $40 so we know who to avoid for every gun related purchase .

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      • #4
        Garv the innocent
        RSG Minion, Senior
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2014
        • 9052

        Originally posted by Bigedski
        $35, SET BY LAW
        ^^^^
        This, more is illegal, unless they are making you buy a $5 lock and did not make that clear.

        If $40 PPT only, please let us know their name so we can gripe/boycott, etc.

        We have convinced places to follow the law by letting them know who does not get our future money.
        Originally posted by Kestryll:
        It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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        • #5
          RR.44
          CGSSA Leader
          • Mar 2012
          • 1933

          Out the store, they don't deserve our money or business in the future. GS are either with us or against us.
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          • #6
            Decoligny
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2008
            • 10615

            28055. (a) For a sale, loan, or transfer conducted pursuant to this chapter, the purchaser or transferee or person being loaned the firearm may be required by the dealer to pay a fee not to exceed ten dollars ($10) per firearm.
            (b) No other fee may be charged by the dealer for a sale, loan, or transfer of a firearm conducted pursuant to this chapter, except for the applicable fees that may be charged pursuant to Sections 23690 and 28300 and Article 3 (commencing with Section 28200) of Chapter 6 and forwarded to the Department of Justice, and the fees set forth in Section 31650.
            (c) The dealer may not charge any additional fees.
            (d) Nothing in these provisions shall prevent a dealer from charging a smaller fee.

            28070. A violation of this chapter by a dealer is a misdemeanor.


            So, the dealer can charge the State Mandated $25.00 DROS fee, plus a charge of $10.00 per firearm.

            NOT A PENNY MORE.

            If they charge $35.01, they have committed a misdemeanor offense, and could theoretically end up in county jail for not more than 1 year.

            Will this ever happen? No. They are letting most criminals out of jail now to help alleviate "overcrowding". Most you could reasonably expect if it were prosecuted would be a fine.


            So, our only recourse to help stop this is to let other people know which stores are stealing money from their customers (it is stealing, they are illegally taking your money), and help to keep others from having their money stolen.
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            If you haven't seen it with your own eyes,
            or heard it with your own ears,
            don't make it up with your small mind,
            or spread it with your big mouth.

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            • #7
              Tovarish
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2014
              • 1615

              Well, $5 is on the lower end of the price of a cable lock, so I assume they are including that for the sake of simplicity. Lock is not required if your handgun is being transferred with the lock that was originally packaged with it.

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              • #8
                pacrat
                I need a LIFE!!
                • May 2014
                • 10285

                Originally posted by Tovarish
                Well, $5 is on the lower end of the price of a cable lock, so I assume they are including that for the sake of simplicity. Lock is not required if your handgun is being transferred with the lock that was originally packaged with it.
                Plus several other legal exemptions. Such as a "Safe Affidavit" which complies with Ca DOJ FSD requirement. Any lock which disables a pistol meets ATF FSD requirement.

                Yet some ethically challenged duplicitous FFLs like Ammo Bros and Turdners. Lie to customers about legal requirements. And hold their guns hostage until you are forced to buy their unneeded lock.

                With FFLs like that. Morality, ethics, honesty, and integrity become concepts that are negated by greed. So they can make another buck for a cheesy chinese lock. Then blame the government for their actions.

                JM2c

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                • #9
                  RR.44
                  CGSSA Leader
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 1933

                  [QUOTE=Tovarish;16942036]Well, $5 is on the lower end of the price of a cable lock, so I assume they are including that for the sake of simplicity. Lock is not required if your handgun is being transferred with the lock that was originally packaged with it.[/QUOTE

                  Not so^^^^

                  Twice now Martin B Redding has charged for locks even though the stock locks were included in each box, something about the construction of the locks cable...blah blah blah, sounds like pure nonsense to me.
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                  • #10
                    pacrat
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2014
                    • 10285

                    [QUOTE=RR.44;16943154]
                    Originally posted by Tovarish
                    Well, $5 is on the lower end of the price of a cable lock, so I assume they are including that for the sake of simplicity. Lock is not required if your handgun is being transferred with the lock that was originally packaged with it.[/QUOTE

                    Not so^^^^

                    Twice now Martin B Redding has charged for locks even though the stock locks were included in each box, something about the construction of the locks cable...blah blah blah, sounds like pure nonsense to me.

                    Actually "not so" or "maybe not so". Ca DOJ not only has a Handgun Roster they have a CaDOJ approved FSD Roster also. Not all OEM locks provided with firearms are on the Ca FSD roster.

                    IF, the OEM lock is not on Ca FSD roster. A simple fix is a "Safe Affidavit", which takes all of 1 minute to fill out and exempts a purchaser from the Ca FSD requirement. All OEM-FSDs meet Federal ATF requirements. They have no approved roster.

                    I can fully understand FFLs wanting to comply with actual laws concerning their business. And protecting their licenses from both Ca DOJ and ATF.

                    But if you meet both legal requirements, Fed and Ca. And a FFL still DEMANDS you buy a lock before they will release your legally purchased firearm.

                    They are Liars and Crooks, and should be OUTED PUBLICLY.

                    JM2c
                    Last edited by pacrat; 09-18-2015, 5:02 PM.

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                    • #11
                      I Swan
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 8770

                      I think Elite charges $40 and Bolsa gunsmithing was charging $85 for PPT they said they were exempt from law because they are gunsmiths

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