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  • bsumoba
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 4217

    FFL transfer direct to me?

    So I sent my action to a guy to do my stock. He has a FFL. The guy who did the stock then sent it to my gunsmith who chambered the barrel. He is also a FFL.

    The gunsmith is telling me he needs to send it to a FFL because the action did not come direct from me.

    Is this right?

    The SN# did not change and the firearm was not converted or changed into another firearm.
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  • #2
    galaxius
    Member
    • Jul 2015
    • 428

    Is he sending it back to the guy who worked on your stock (First FFL)?

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    • #3
      bsumoba
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 4217

      I want him to send it direct to me, not the first FFL.

      The action has been already sold to me a few months ago.
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      • #4
        P5Ret
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2010
        • 6378

        I believe he is correct, but you may get a more accurate answer if you ask this in the FFL section.

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        • #5
          GOLDEN GUN
          Banned
          • Dec 2012
          • 2326

          yes, they are correct, he can either return it to 1st FFL or DROS it to you.

          If they FFL has had the firearm for over 30 days, he must also DROS it back to you.

          so the answer depends on how long it has been out of your possession. if more than 30 days, have the 2nd FFL DROS it to you. if not, have him send it to first FFL and have First FFL return it to you.

          but under no circumstance can second FFL just give it back to You

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          • #6
            bsumoba
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 4217

            Originally posted by GOLDEN GUN
            yes, they are correct, he can either return it to 1st FFL or DROS it to you.

            If they FFL has had the firearm for over 30 days, he must also DROS it back to you.

            so the answer depends on how long it has been out of your possession. if more than 30 days, have the 2nd FFL DROS it to you. if not, have him send it to first FFL and have First FFL return it to you.

            but under no circumstance can second FFL just give it back to You
            To make things easier, I might have him send it to the first FFL and then then the first FFL send it back to me
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            • #7
              GOLDEN GUN
              Banned
              • Dec 2012
              • 2326

              Originally posted by bsumoba
              To make things easier, I might have him send it to the first FFL and then then the first FFL send it back to me
              yes, The first FFL is also supposed to DROS it back to you if it has been out of your possession for over 30 days. This often causes a problem for off roster guns...at which point the best cause of action is for him to log it out of his book, to retun it to you, and relog it into his book, before the 30 day mark passes....

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              • #8
                bsumoba
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 4217

                Would this mean potentially a new 10-day wait and the dealer potentially charging me a transfer fee?
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                • #9
                  GOLDEN GUN
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 2326

                  Absolutely

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                  • #10
                    bsumoba
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 4217

                    damn laws....
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                    • #11
                      FTC
                      Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 329

                      Never heard of this 30 day thing with a gunsmith. Plenty of rifles get built by gunsmiths over 30 days and are returned directly to their original owners without dros so long as the owner already owned the action as in this case.

                      The first ffl should be able to send it back, but I'm no expert
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                      • #12
                        ke6guj
                        Moderator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 23725

                        have the second FFL sent it back to the first FFL and then the first FFL can do a no-DROS gunsmith return back to you. the first FFL received it in for gunsmithing and can return it without needing to DROS. the fact that the first FFL sent it to another FFL for additional work is not an issue as long as it comes back to the first FFL to the return back to the owner.
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                        • #13
                          GOLDEN GUN
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 2326

                          I stand corrected regarding ATF requirement for background check after gun smithing..



                          Unclear about California Dros

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