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  • jaredlachapelle
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 8

    Transfer gun question

    Not sure if this is the right thread for this question but my uncle gave me a Para Ordnance 1911 double stack he bought back in 1990. I ordered a 10 round mag for it to make California happy but I'm not sure the best way to transfer it. He bought it in Nevada but has been living in Washington state for the last 15 years or so. It was registered in Washington for his ccw. Any suggestions or someone that can manage the transfer in the Sacramento area? Thanks

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    Chapped Hide
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 3901

    Cannot be gifted or transferred since it is off roster and out of state. If it was gifted by your mother, father, grandfather, son or daughter then that would be a different story. This gun cannot be legally registered in CA under the circumstances you've described.
    **** your feelings!

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    • #3
      jaredlachapelle
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2015
      • 8

      Crap.

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      • #4
        LowThudd
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 3608

        If you two can meet in CA someplace, you can do a PPT transfer.

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        • #5
          Chapped Hide
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 3901

          Originally posted by LowThudd
          If you two can meet in CA someplace, you can do a PPT transfer.
          Not true.
          **** your feelings!

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          • #6
            Librarian
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            • Oct 2005
            • 44682

            Originally posted by LowThudd
            If you two can meet in CA someplace, you can do a PPT transfer.
            No.

            PPT is for CA residents, with CA ID. This case is WA resident to CA resident, interstate transfer, Roster applies.
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            • #7
              LowThudd
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 3608

              Originally posted by Librarian
              No.

              PPT is for CA residents, with CA ID. This case is WA resident to CA resident, interstate transfer, Roster applies.
              Dam, I wasn't thinking un-liberal enough.

              Well, then, if his uncle has an offspring in CA, I guess it could transfer through them. Otherwise SOL.

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              • #8
                jaredlachapelle
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2015
                • 8

                No kids, which is why he wants to pass it down to me and I think Im too old to be adopted. Stupid California.

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                • #9
                  LowThudd
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 3608

                  Originally posted by jaredlachapelle
                  No kids, which is why he wants to pass it down to me and I think Im too old to be adopted. Stupid California.

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                  he could transfer it to your father/mother/grandfather/grandmother in another state, even in another state they can gift it to you here.

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                  • #10
                    jaredlachapelle
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 8

                    We all live in California, one option I thought of is he could transfer it to his mom (my grandmother ) then to me

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                    • #11
                      CSACANNONEER
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 44094

                      Originally posted by jaredlachapelle
                      We all live in California, one option I thought of is he could transfer it to his mom (my grandmother ) then to me

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                      That could easily be seen as a straw purchase. You are not able to receive the gun. So, if someone who is able to receive it, does so with the intent to transfer it to you, that is a straw purchase even if both transfers, by themselves, would be legal.
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                      • #12
                        jaredlachapelle
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 8

                        Is a "straw purchase " illegal or something?

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                        • #13
                          jaredlachapelle
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 8



                          Looking at this it seems like its a problem if the final person is a felon

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                          • #14
                            pluke the 2
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 1926

                            Yes it's illegal. On the dros there's a question about this issue

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                            • #15
                              CSACANNONEER
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                              • Dec 2006
                              • 44094

                              Originally posted by jaredlachapelle
                              http://smartgunlaws.org/straw-purchases-policy-summary/

                              Looking at this it seems like its a problem if the final person is a felon

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                              Yes, a straw purchase is illegal if the end user is a felon or not. Again, even if each individual transfer would be legal, it is not legal for one person to buy a firearm with the intention of transferring to someone who can not legally receive it (just like you can't legally receive it now) or, if the real buyer just doesn't want to fill out forms (in CA this isn't even a legal option in the first place), etc.
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