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  • #31
    bountyhunter
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3423

    Originally posted by homelessdude
    To my way of thinking the answer is no.
    +1 Just makes a perfect target.

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    • #32
      Killer Bee
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 2182

      yes, the brighter the better..

      for various reasons very well described above..

      and for the 'sweeping blue forces with your light' folks, most high performance lights cast more than enough illumination to see everything clearly from low ready without pointing directly at friendly positions.. besides the fact that's the whole point, IDENTIFY..

      I'll take this coupled with with a BLAST II any day over guessing in the shadows of a dark house filled with family members..

      nothing forcing you to light up if you're conclusive on a threat target.. but necessary where doubt is cast from lack of clarity..

      fumbling with a maglight while controlling a weapon immediately from slumber just has too many moving parts..

      and lots and lots of practice with low light pwc's



      I started out with nothing - and I still have most of it

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      • #33
        AreWeFree
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 4558

        Originally posted by bountyhunter
        +1 Just makes a perfect target.
        Sleeping in your home makes a perfect target, so don't sleep and get rid of your home, no matter how beneficial it is. You're just giving away your position.

        Don't forget valuables, perfect target? Yep, burn 'em. Nice car? Not having it, perfect target.

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        • #34
          toby
          Banned
          • Jan 2010
          • 10576

          Nope, no extra crap hanging off my guns. NO family members enter my house before texting or calling, so if someone enters I already know who it shouldn't be.
          Last edited by toby; 08-26-2015, 5:49 AM.

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          • #35
            63j300
            Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 386

            My thought is with a weapon mounted light wherever that flash light is pointed so is your weapon. If you do find it is your family member that you did not hear at the door, you just flagged them. Or did the flash light coming across a family member cause you to flinch and you pulled the trigger. I will keep the flashlight in my hand and have the wife or kids call the cops once we are in a safe place. Cops can clear the house.
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            • #36
              FresnoRob
              Senior Member
              • May 2013
              • 2133

              Yes, if used properly. To light up a target before pulling the trigger. Not to be on while trapesing through the house investigating a noise.

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              • #37
                Zartan
                In Memoriam
                • Nov 2010
                • 6269

                Originally posted by 63j300
                My thought is with a weapon mounted light wherever that flash light is pointed so is your weapon. If you do find it is your family member that you did not hear at the door, you just flagged them. Or did the flash light coming across a family member cause you to flinch and you pulled the trigger. I will keep the flashlight in my hand and have the wife or kids call the cops once we are in a safe place. Cops can clear the house.
                I've thought about this also, but I can illuminate an room/hallway at low ready, but then again someone will chime in and say "low ready will get you killed"
                "If he won't walk, walk him...be nice"
                -Dalton



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                • #38
                  drclark
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 1719

                  For the "bump in the night" it might be better to have the home wired with "smart" lighting such that all the lights in the house can be turned on at once from the bedroom.

                  That might be enough to drive an invader away, eliminates the potential of accidentally shooting a loved one when sweeping a weapon mounted light and eliminates the issue of having both hands occupied when using a separate light.

                  Unless you train regularly clearing dark rooms with a light it might be the better option.

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                  • #39
                    Mayor McRifle
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 7660

                    Originally posted by drclark
                    For the "bump in the night" it might be better to have the home wired with "smart" lighting such that all the lights in the house can be turned on at once from the bedroom.

                    That might be enough to drive an invader away, eliminates the potential of accidentally shooting a loved one when sweeping a weapon mounted light and eliminates the issue of having both hands occupied when using a separate light.

                    Unless you train regularly clearing dark rooms with a light it might be the better option.
                    That makes perfect sense, but turning on house lights is not nearly as cool as deploying a weapon light in your own home. Besides, what are going to show off at the range?
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                    • #40
                      Quiet
                      retired Goon
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 30241

                      Originally posted by FresnoRob
                      Yes, if used properly. To light up a target before pulling the trigger. Not to be on while trapesing through the house investigating a noise.


                      The light is to identify targets, not to illuminate your path.
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                      "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                      • #41
                        Jimmybikes
                        Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 228

                        Originally posted by Ergo the Qualmed
                        Lights allow you to identify and categorize the threat

                        Lights can disorient the threat

                        The beam of a weaponlight provides a nice "rounds will land in this area" effect

                        A light on the weapon allows you to do the above with one hand, useful if shepherding children, navigating the house, calling the police, or are injured.

                        Shooting at a shape in the dark, without identifying the threat or determining whether it really merited lethal force, is not a route I want to take. Nor is having a separate light that I must set down if I wish to call the cops, open a door, etc.

                        This completely
                        If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does a bear still s**t there?

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                        • #42
                          Mayor McRifle
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 7660

                          Originally posted by Quiet
                          Light is not constantly on.
                          Light gets turned on to identify target prior to shooting.
                          Are you defending yourself or hunting?
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                          • #43
                            Quiet
                            retired Goon
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 30241

                            Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
                            Are you defending yourself or hunting?
                            If it's in your residence, it's the same thing.

                            Otherwise, secure the room you are in and wait for law enforcement to show up.
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                            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                            • #44
                              EspoMan
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 1618

                              A light of some sort, either on your gun or separate, is a must for HD.
                              Living in the free State of Nevada

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                              • #45
                                Jimmybikes
                                Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 228

                                Originally posted by Ergo the Qualmed
                                Lights allow you to identify and categorize the threat

                                Lights can disorient the threat

                                The beam of a weaponlight provides a nice "rounds will land in this area" effect

                                A light on the weapon allows you to do the above with one hand, useful if shepherding children, navigating the house, calling the police, or are injured.

                                Shooting at a shape in the dark, without identifying the threat or determining whether it really merited lethal force, is not a route I want to take. Nor is having a separate light that I must set down if I wish to call the cops, open a door, etc.

                                This completely. Your light shouldn't be on the second you hear a noise and these lights will at the very least render them momentarily blind allow you time to assess and act accordingly.
                                If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does a bear still s**t there?

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