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  • Getdoogie
    Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 197

    moral conundrum please help

    So I have a rifle that is legally mine but was traded to another person . for three firearms . during the sale he was lacking proper paperwork work but he vowed to produce upon pickup of rifle and the shop agreed my side of deal went through without a hitch and I received my three new firearms ten days later . however several days later the FFL called me and told me to come pick up the mosin because the other guy could not produce for mentioned documentation . I still have not heard a word from the other guy about his rifle outside of a single call where he said " sorry buddy I been out of the country to china and Europe but I'm back what's the word on the rifle ." to which I replied it locked up in my safe right now . what would you like to do .. He said quickly I'll call you back .. And I never heard from him again ..

    What should I do I don't have any means to contact this person .. Do I just hold it forever ..
    Or is it mine again
    Any input would be nice

    Thanks
  • #2
    philobeddoe
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 2022

    I think it's yours. If he ever contacts you, let your conscience and the law be your guide.
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    • #3
      j15w
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 869

      Give him the minimum amount of cordilality. Make an ultimatum that he needs to handle this or you walk. Can't STAND people that waste other peoples' time like this.
      It was just an old plywood boat, with a '75 Johnson, with electric choke. A young boy, two hands on the wheel, I can't replace the way it made me feel.

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      • #4
        David-K
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 745

        Nothing and enjoy your newly acquired firearms, along with your rifle.
        "Well, looky here. If it ain't the fuzz".

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        • #5
          RandyD
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2009
          • 6673

          I had a similar situation happen. I sold a firearm, and the buyer could not complete the transaction, and the FFL requested that I take the firearm back, which I did. I called the buyer and offered to return his payment. We agreed on a time and place to meet so I could return his money and he did not show, and never called again.

          OP, you are in legal possession of the firearm, keep it for a reasonable amount of time, so that you can conclude the transaction at a time when the buyer wants to finish the transaction. If he fails to finish the transaction, then consider his act as abandoning the transaction.
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          • #6
            davegonewild
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Apr 2012
            • 1190

            Maybe give him 6 months or so. You never know what is going on in his life.

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            • #7
              Getdoogie
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 197

              Thanks guys it's been quite some time already happened about a month ago I'll hold em a lil longer I guess

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              • #8
                readysetgo
                CGSSA Coordinator
                • Aug 2011
                • 8692

                Sell the rifle and offer to forward the proceeds? Could alleviate the hassle of transferring while still not stiffing the guy even though he was responsible to complete the transaction in the first place.

                A middle ground of responsibility (his) vs. consideration (yours), I guess.

                Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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                • #9
                  Getdoogie
                  Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 197

                  Turns out he's a fellow calgunner .. Lolz he must have seen this post cause he just hit me up .. Thank the gun gods ... And thanks to all you guys for the input

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                  • #10
                    Junkie
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 4848

                    I was going to say hold onto it for at least 6mo unless there's a very good reason not to. I would consider asking him for something for your time/gas to re-do the transfer.
                    Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                    A real live woman is more expensive than a fleshlight. Which would you rather have?

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                    • #11
                      Spyder
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 17149

                      What mosin did you trade him for what three guns!?

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                      • #12
                        paratroop
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 1743

                        Thats what im saying spyder ! Must be a nice mosin, or 3 really crappy guns !

                        Obviously the right thing to do is hang on to it for him, so did he ever say tbe reason it took him so long to get his property ?

                        This is something i dont quite understand. You made a deal,you finished the deal, but 30 days later the third party that the state requires us to use(ffl) calls and says pick up your gun. Well, its already been traded! It really isnt, or shouldnt be your responsibility at all. You already completed your transaction.

                        Stupid california! So what was the mosin? And what were the 3 guns in trade?
                        Originally posted by Marcus von W.
                        Is that banjo music I hear?
                        "Sporter" is what the drooling toothless inbred albino with the hacksaw thinks his newly created "dear riffel" is.
                        "Bubba" is what he and his ugly and ruined rifle really are.
                        First you are chopping up historic vintage rifles and sticking them in cheap and nasty looking plastic "dildo" stocks that look like some kind of futuristic sex toy that gay space aliens stick up each other's butts.
                        Next thing you know, you think "Deliverance" is a love story.

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                        • #13
                        • #14
                          Getdoogie
                          Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 197

                          I got a Remington a303
                          A Remington model 10 auto loader
                          And a Smith&Wesson sdv.40 with three mags
                          And a arisaka type 99 in .300 savage forgot about that one ...... Too many guns

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                          • #15
                            Getdoogie
                            Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 197

                            Still have the a303 Corona barrel if anyone's interested ..
                            And the Remington auto loader both up for sale /trade

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