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  • #16
    Sky_DiveR
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 3017

    How would anybody know if your handgun was registered or not? How does it get registered in the first place? I thought the gubmint ain't supposed to keep records like that.

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    • #17
      Librarian
      Admin and Poltergeist
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 44680

      Originally posted by Sky_DiveR
      How would anybody know if your handgun was registered or not?

      How does it get registered in the first place? I thought the gubmint ain't supposed to keep records like that.
      After an arrest on the gun charge, police query the CA Automated Firearms System. Despite the database's known limitations, 'no record' is deemed to be 'not registered'.

      See the wiki for 'how do guns get into AFS' -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Firearms_registration

      (Perhaps you are thinking of BATF when you say "I thought the gubmint ain't supposed to keep records like that.". The Congressional restriction on BATF doesn't apply to states.)
      ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

      Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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      • #18
        Sky_DiveR
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 3017

        Hmmm.... I didn't know that the AFS was started in '91. I was just joking about the gubmint records thing. Learned some new things today. Thanks for the link.

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        • #19
          RickD427
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2007
          • 9276

          Originally posted by Sky_DiveR
          Hmmm.... I didn't know that the AFS was started in '91. I was just joking about the gubmint records thing. Learned some new things today. Thanks for the link.
          AFS has been around a lot longer than 1991. It was in place when I first started working in 1976.

          1991 was the year that private sales of handguns were required to through FFLs. That produced an AFS entry for all such transactions.
          If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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          • #20
            Mitch
            Mostly Harmless
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2008
            • 6580

            Originally posted by retiredAFcop
            It's a "clever" way to backdoor people who owned their firearms prior to the mandatory registration period, and who haven't voluntarily registered the firearms.
            New handguns have been registered in California since the 1920s, and PPTs have gone through an FFL since the early 1990s.

            Unless you purchased your handgun through a private party prior to 1992, it will have been registered, assuming you aren't breaking the law.
            Originally posted by cockedandglocked
            Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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            • #21
              retiredAFcop
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 2108

              Originally posted by Mitch
              New handguns have been registered in California since the 1920s, and PPTs have gone through an FFL since the early 1990s.

              Unless you purchased your handgun through a private party prior to 1992, it will have been registered, assuming you aren't breaking the law.
              Or purchased them out of state prior to registration requirements for guns brought in when you moved here.

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