Saiga 12 tuning

[LAK Supply]

Anybody know much about the Saiga 12's? I picked one up today and although it cycles slugs and buck properly it's having issues cycling Kent #8 loads. Is there any way to tune something on this gun to cycle with the lighter 12ga loads?

[JeffM]

Did you turn the gas plug to #2?

The gas plug above the barrel has two settings. #1 is for heavy loads like slugs and buckshot. #2 = twice as much gas getting to the gas piston, and is for light loads.

There are some that have problems with light loads even on #2 and may need the gas block removed so the ports can be reamed slightly larger.

ETA: DO NOT SHOOT HEAVY LOADS ON SETTING #2!!! Try all loads on #1 and only switch settings if they fail to cycle. You will do bad things to the back of the bolt/carrier and rear trunnion if you do it more than a few times.

[NSR500]

Just don't shoot heavy loads on #2 too much because you can cause damage to your S-12. BTW... After it is broken in it will cycle better on #1 even with the light loads.

[LAK Supply]

Thanks for the input guys... just bought it today and didn't have much of a chance to research before the purchase. I noticed it at a gun show and it followed me home... couldn't resist a 12ga that functions/looks like and AK!

I have the knob turned to # 1... only fired a few rounds through it however, so I guess I need to give it time to break in? How many times do I need to fire this thing to break it in? Not that I mind anyway.... this thing is a kick to shoot. I folded the stock over and tried firing from the hip a bit... 2' x 6' swath of earth in front of me paid with it's life...

[JeffM]

Thanks for the input guys... just bought it today and didn't have much of a chance to research before the purchase. I noticed it at a gun show and it followed me home... couldn't resist a 12ga that functions/looks like and AK!

I have the knob turned to # 1... only fired a few rounds through it however, so I guess I need to give it time to break in? How many times do I need to fire this thing to break it in? Not that I mind anyway.... this thing is a kick to shoot. I folded the stock over and tried firing from the hip a bit... 2' x 6' swath of earth in front of me paid with it's life...

A few hundred rounds is common for breaking in a new gun. But #2 will get the cheap walmart bulkpack ammo running right now if you're so inclined. Or use setting #1 and practice your clearing drills

What stock do you have on it?

[emc002]

I unpinned and folded the stock over when I was in Nevada and tried firing from the hip a bit... 2' x 6' swath of earth in front of me paid with it's life...

Fixed, whew!

[LAK Supply]

A few hundred rounds is common for breaking in a new gun. But #2 will get the cheap walmart bulkpack ammo running right now if you're so inclined. Or use setting #1 and practice your clearing drills

What stock do you have on it?

Sounds like I'll be hitting Walmart and picking up a few of the bulk packs... If I must that is.

Not sure on the stock... came on it...

[JeffM]

Fixed, whew!

IIRC, LAK is not in CA.

[JeffM]

Sounds like I'll be hitting Walmart and picking up a few of the bulk packs... If I must that is.

Not sure on the stock... came on it...

I was just wondering if it was converted to use a standard AK stock and if you were using a Bulgarian/Russian triangle folder, Romy/Polish side folder, etc...

That looks like an ACE stock that doesn't require mods to the actual gun.

Most Saigas are imported with a "sporter" style fixed stock.

[LAK Supply]

I was just wondering if it was converted to use a standard AK stock and if you were using a Bulgarian/Russian triangle folder, Romy/Polish side folder, etc...

That looks like an ACE stock that doesn't require mods to the actual gun.

Most Saigas are imported with a "sporter" style fixed stock.

The guy I picked it up from was telling me something about that... IIRC he said there was something that had to be done to the rear of the receiver for this stock though. He had another one with the trigger moved forward, a rail, and a brake, but I couldn't see spending $1500 for it... I think that one had several hours of machine work done to it.

[SJgunguy24]

The guy I picked it up from was telling me something about that... IIRC he said there was something that had to be done to the rear of the receiver for this stock though. He had another one with the trigger moved forward, a rail, and a brake, but I couldn't see spending $1500 for it... I think that one had several hours of machine work done to it.

WOW I think Tony Rumore only charges 1300$ for his. BTW The Tromix shotguns are the POO

[JeffM]

WOW I think Tony Rumore only charges 1300$ for his. BTW The Tromix shotguns are the POO

Rails and stocks for the S12 can eat up some serious $$$. Tony Rumore (Tromix) does a very basic conversion for the money (along with a 12+month wait). He's an inovator for sure, especially with his S12 SBS work, but you're paying for the brand name, which is why some people advertise their guns as a "Tromix", simply meaning converted or possibly using parts made by Tromix, even if they did the work themselves in the garage. You could have the same quality or better for less money, +/- options.