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  • #46
    Ronin2
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 5563

    Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
    FAIL AND FUD! There are millions of legally owned and unregistered firearms in CA. That includes many legally owned handguns.
    Originally posted by cudakidd
    Prior to 1992 private handgun sales were legal, thus lots of legally transferred handguns not in the DOJ database...
    Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
    Also, intrafamilar transfers were not tracked until years after that. I forget when reporting of handguns by people moving to CA started. Plus, of course, home built firearms are still not required to be registered. Finally, it is still legal to transfer long guns to minors via intrafamilar transfers with zero paperwork/registration.
    Ahhhhhh... The "good ole days". Making me feel real old

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    • #47
      jonzer77
      • Jul 2010
      • 8525

      Originally posted by toby
      It's registered to somebody somewhere.

      Not exactly. There are A LOT of unregistered handguns in this state.


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      Originally posted by barrage
      That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.

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      • #48
        jonzer77
        • Jul 2010
        • 8525

        Originally posted by vintagearms
        Sig will have each serial number in their database and have record of which wholesaler/distributer that SIG sent it to. In turn, the wholesaler/distributer will have record of what FFL is was shipped to for sale. They will lookup the DROS and find the last registered owner.



        The only unregistered guns out there are those that are stolen or were done by way of handshake/money transfer.




        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
        Originally posted by barrage
        That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.

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        • #49
          SneezySky
          Buy once cry once
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2013
          • 331

          Found gun - can finder keep it?


          [img=http://s2.postimg.org/eijhcj88l/image.jpg]

          Actual find. Again- it's with Leo now.
          Last edited by SneezySky; 05-25-2015, 10:01 AM.
          Live your life like you don't have a spare.

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          • #50
            RickD427
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2007
            • 9266

            Originally posted by thenaz11c
            When I was working as rangemaster and closing up for the day I had a couple of pistols that were left on the range. I contacted the local sheriff to turn them in and had to fill out a lost property form as part of the deal.

            On the form it had a guide for how lost property could be disposed of. One of the ways was that after a certain amount of time, sixty days I think it was, the finder could make a claim on it.

            Bad part for me was that right under that line in bold print was:

            "Exception, firearms may not be claimed."

            This was a Placer County Sheriff's form and I don't remember seeing a code section sited on it so I don't know if it was by law or department policy but I could not claim them if the owner was never found.

            Hope this helps.
            It would be interesting to see if Placer SO can point to a statute, or case decision, that provides an exception to Civil Code 2080.3. I'm not aware of any.

            I know that it would be a real PITA for an LE agency to comply both with 2080.3 and the applicable state and federal statutes governing the transfer of a handgun. But PITA does not excuse the failure to comply with a statute.
            If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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            • #51
              ArcherDog
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 808

              Didn't SCOTUS rule on this scenario on the case of Finders v. Keepers?
              Ian Lindsay
              Tracy, CA

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              • #52
                beardog308
                Banned
                • Feb 2014
                • 577

                I found a S&W .357. I worked for a water district and was pulling meters from a neighborhood that had burned down. The grips were gone and the barrel was bent a degree to the side. Sherriff's deputies were in the area so I gave it to them. He called in the serial number and found it was unregistered. That was the last I heard about that.

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                • #53
                  JDay
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19393

                  Originally posted by ArcherDog
                  Didn't SCOTUS rule on this scenario on the case of Finders v. Keepers?
                  Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                  The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                  • #54
                    The War Wagon
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10294

                    Originally posted by SneezySky
                    My friend found a Sig in his backyard!

                    The police were around the neighborhood chasing some suspects. A gun was ditched in his yard. He has turned in the gun to the police... but can he claim for abandoned property on the gun at some point?

                    This is in LA county if it matters.

                    If he'd kept his mouth shut, possibly. Since his loud-mouth friend blabbed it all over the interwebz , it better ALREADY be in a police evidence locker!
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                    • #55
                      Click Boom
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 6955

                      Originally posted by CK_32
                      Why would he even want it?

                      Probably broken, abused and "modified".

                      Probably stolen and probably has a life on it.
                      Most of the Same could be said for every milsurp.

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                      • #56
                        SneezySky
                        Buy once cry once
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 331

                        Originally posted by Click Boom
                        Most of the Same could be said for every milsurp.

                        My thoughts exactly. My friend not the superstitious type. Nice story to go with the gun.
                        Live your life like you don't have a spare.

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                        • #57
                          SneezySky
                          Buy once cry once
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 331

                          Originally posted by The War Wagon
                          If he'd kept his mouth shut, possibly. Since his loud-mouth friend blabbed it all over the interwebz , it better ALREADY be in a police evidence locker!

                          Not worth the risk
                          Live your life like you don't have a spare.

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                          • #58
                            Huntsprig
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 1463

                            Originally posted by ArcherDog
                            Didn't SCOTUS rule on this scenario on the case of Finders v. Keepers?


                            Yes, that is where the SCOTUS made the frequently cited ruling that Possession is nine-tenths of the law!



                            "I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries; as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe."

                            Thomas Jefferson

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                            • #59
                              ijustdontknow
                              Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 494

                              I can only speak for myself when I say if I found a pistol in my back lawn I wouldn't have found anything.

                              PS my cat's name is schrodinger.


                              Please blame any typos on my tapathingy
                              "Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak." -- John Adams

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                              • #60
                                Ron-Solo
                                In Memoriam
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 8581

                                Ethics, the lost cause on CalGuns.

                                Plus, misappropriation of found property is considered theft per 485 PC. Theft of a firearm is a felony under 489(a) PC.
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                                1978-2011

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