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  • Fight CA GC
    Banned
    • Sep 2014
    • 168

    How do you feel about a LCI?

    I'll start.

    I've read comments on how people hate the LCI and I don't understand why.

    Personally, I don't mind it if it doesn't stick out so much. 1st picture is my USP .45 Tactical with a LCI that barely sticks out. 2nd picture shows my PPQ M2 Navy with an LCI, but unlike the H&K, it sticks in. I don't like the LCI (CA version) on the S&W Sheild. I believe the Sig Sauer P226 has something similar.

    What bugs me is that CA DOJ makes it a requirement. If people really need a LCI to show them that there's one in the chamber, they shouldn't be owning/possessing a firearm at all! What are one of the commandments when handling a firearm? ALWAYS TREAT A FIREARM AS IF IT LOADED!!!

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    Mayor McRifle
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2013
    • 7731

    I'd rather not have one, but LCIs aren't that big a deal to me. Magazine disconnects are far more annoying.
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    • #3
      PatC415
      • Nov 2014
      • 979

      Can't agree more. Some LCI are worse than others. Not crazy about the mag disconnect for sure. Good reason to buy "off roster."
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      • #4
        Napalm Bulldog
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 4266

        I dont mind the LCI, Hate all the BS writing that goes with it. Mag disconnect is the first thing to go.

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        • #5
          Waking Heavy
          Banned
          • Nov 2014
          • 236

          Don't like them. Probably because something about a LCI doesn't sound right.

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          • #6
            CK_32
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            • Sep 2010
            • 14369

            Most people who complain about it.

            Have never shot with it.

            It's kind of annoying. But it's not as bad as people make up about it. Just one more thing guys can complain about on the Internet with their "mechanical expertise".
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            • #7
              D_ninja
              Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 283

              LCI is for California liberals.....makes them feel nice and safe. I prefer the military version of an LCI....my finger via a press check. An LCI is ugly and one more thing that can go wrong. Keep it simple stupid.

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              • #8
                ifilef
                Banned
                • Apr 2008
                • 5665

                Originally posted by Fight CA GC
                I'll start.

                I've read comments on how people hate the LCI and I don't understand why.

                Personally, I don't mind it if it doesn't stick out so much. 1st picture is my USP .45 Tactical with a LCI that barely sticks out. 2nd picture shows my PPQ M2 Navy with an LCI, but unlike the H&K, it sticks in. I don't like the LCI (CA version) on the S&W Sheild. I believe the Sig Sauer P226 has something similar.

                What bugs me is that CA DOJ makes it a requirement. If people really need a LCI to show them that there's one in the chamber, they shouldn't be owning/possessing a firearm at all! What are one of the commandments when handling a firearm? ALWAYS TREAT A FIREARM AS IF IT LOADED!!!

                Thoughts?
                Oh, please don't be so naive! You are showing your age...

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                • #9
                  CSACANNONEER
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44094

                  I don't have an issue with them as an option but, I do have a real problem with them being required. Anyone who thinks LCIs make firearms any safer is a lunatic. In fact, I feel it makes the firearm potentially less safe since, LCIs breed laziness and complacency by their mere presence. All firearms should ALWAYS be treated as loaded and NO ONE should EVER pick up a firearm without visually and physically inspecting the chamber to see if it is loaded. LCIs only give people excuses for not following all firearms safety rules at all times.
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                  • #10
                    Waking Heavy
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 236

                    Originally posted by D_ninja
                    ...I prefer the military version of an LCI....my finger via a press check....

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                    • #11
                      ifilef
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 5665

                      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                      I don't have an issue with them as an option but, I do have a real problem with them being required. Anyone who thinks LCIs make firearms any safer is a lunatic. In fact, I feel it makes the firearm potentially less safe since, LCIs breed laziness and complacency by their mere presence. All firearms should ALWAYS be treated as loaded and NO ONE should EVER pick up a firearm without visually and physically inspecting the chamber to see if it is loaded. LCIs only give people excuses for not following all firearms safety rules at all times.
                      COMPLACENCY has its place, as with all endeavors. I like the LCI on the Shield because it sticks out prominently, in accordance with the statute. The hole on the off-roster Shield is ONE BIG JOKE for LOSERS, aye LOSERS IN THE DARK!

                      'Idiots' who might be here- stop making a 'mountain' out of a 'molehill', and focus on more important matters. LCI's have been in existence since before WWI.
                      Last edited by ifilef; 05-17-2015, 3:40 PM.

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                      • #12
                        CrazyPhuD
                        Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 458

                        Originally posted by Fight CA GC
                        I'll start.

                        I've read comments on how people hate the LCI and I don't understand why.

                        Personally, I don't mind it if it doesn't stick out so much. 1st picture is my USP .45 Tactical with a LCI that barely sticks out. 2nd picture shows my PPQ M2 Navy with an LCI, but unlike the H&K, it sticks in. I don't like the LCI (CA version) on the S&W Sheild. I believe the Sig Sauer P226 has something similar.

                        What bugs me is that CA DOJ makes it a requirement. If people really need a LCI to show them that there's one in the chamber, they shouldn't be owning/possessing a firearm at all! What are one of the commandments when handling a firearm? ALWAYS TREAT A FIREARM AS IF IT LOADED!!!

                        Thoughts?
                        Statistically an LCI adds nothing to firearms safety.(in CA accidental handguns shooting fatalities are effectively zero)

                        Statistically adding an LCI to a gun that wasn't already designed for one adds additional design/production cost which is then passed onto the CA consumer which increases price of CA handguns.

                        Statistically increasing the cost of any product reduces the demand/number of people who can/will buy a product.

                        If a gun comes by design with an LCI no problem, let the market decide what people want.

                        But when the legislature in CA decided to mandate an LCI they knew it would have no impact on safety and increase the price of CA handguns which would reduce the number of people who would be able to buy a handgun in CA.

                        Any questions?

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                        • #13
                          ifilef
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 5665

                          Originally posted by CrazyPhuD
                          Statistically an LCI adds nothing to firearms safety (in CA accidental handguns shooting fatalities are effectively zero)

                          Statistically adding an LCI to a gun that wasn't already designed for one adds additional design/production cost which is then passed onto the CA consumer which increases price of CA handguns.

                          Statistically increasing the cost of any product reduces the demand/number of people who can/will buy a product.

                          If a gun comes by design with an LCI no problem, let the market decide what people want.

                          But when the legislature in CA decided to mandate an LCI they knew it would have no impact on safety and increase the price of CA handguns which would reduce the number of people who would be able to buy a handgun in CA.

                          Any questions?
                          http://ktla.com/2015/05/16/teen-14-s...unger-brother/,

                          Yeah, I don't give much credibility to your statements. I don't think that way.

                          Question: Do you really believe what you said to be true? All guns will eventually have a LCI, been around long long time, get with the times.
                          Last edited by ifilef; 05-17-2015, 3:54 PM.

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                          • #14
                            ifilef
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 5665

                            Originally posted by Napalm Bulldog
                            I dont mind the LCI, Hate all the BS writing that goes with it. Mag disconnect is the first thing to go.
                            Mag disconnect is for cops or shooters who are facing gun retention problems.

                            Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't it occurred where a cop loses control of his pistol and gets shot dead with his own gun? Has that ever happened?
                            Last edited by ifilef; 05-17-2015, 4:18 PM.

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                            • #15
                              JDay
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19393

                              LCI's have been known to cause jams. The LCI on your HKs is fine since it's really just the extractor.
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