How to get FFL

[evollep3]

I want to try to be a FFL since in my area theres no real locals where can I start? Please help a brother out... :/

[Mssr. Eleganté]

I want to try to be a FFL since in my area theres no real locals where can I start? Please help a brother out... :/

What type of FFL do you want to try to be?

Type 01 - DEALER IN FIREARMS
Type 02 - PAWNBROKER
Type 03 - COLLECTOR OF CURIOS AND RELICS

Type 06 - MANUFACTURER OF AMMUNITION FOR FIREARMS
Type 07 - MANUFACTURER OF FIREARMS
Type 08 - IMPORTER OF FIREARMS / AMMUNITION

Type 09 - DEALER IN DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES
Type 10 - MANUFACTURER OF DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES
Type 11 - IMPORTER OF DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES

[evollep3]

Dealer in Firearms i guess lol i really dont know what catagory it will fall under this is what i want to do just to be able to sell accesories and transfer. i just want something small aside from my daily insurance gig as more of a hobby than a business to keep me busy I have had a wholesale resale licenses before that i had let go couple years back for minor things but i figure that most of these places are ripping people off and just like my fellow neighbor who owns a gas station who lowered his prices to set a example for everyone else to come down I kind of want to do the same thing and plus there is really no FFL for transfer in my area within a 25-30 mile radius and i like to just be busy so i figure this would be great

*damn so many run on's! lol hate typing from my phone*

What type of FFL do you want to try to be?

Type 01 - DEALER IN FIREARMS
Type 02 - PAWNBROKER
Type 03 - COLLECTOR OF CURIOS AND RELICS

Type 06 - MANUFACTURER OF AMMUNITION FOR FIREARMS
Type 07 - MANUFACTURER OF FIREARMS
Type 08 - IMPORTER OF FIREARMS / AMMUNITION

Type 09 - DEALER IN DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES
Type 10 - MANUFACTURER OF DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES
Type 11 - IMPORTER OF DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES

[SJgunguy24]

An FFL is a buisness license. Not a hobby. The Feds see it just as that,your main source of income. It's really expensive too,3K to apply for an 01 dealers FFL. Call them up and get an app. If your an insurance broker then the paper work won't phase you.

The paper work for my 03 is way more streamlined.

[evollep3]

An FFL is a buisness license. Not a hobby. The Feds see it just as that,your main source of income. It's really expensive too,3K to apply for an 01 dealers FFL. Call them up and get an app. If your an insurance broker then the paper work won't phase you.

The paper work for my 03 is way more streamlined.

i will make it better for you im a insurance broker that have 126 companies with at least 300 apps a month from my office that i look at so paper work is no sweat its where do i begin and trust me this thing will never be more than my major income unless i end up like lans world or something like that sort i mean as far as live scan and doj background im all good with that department of insurance is just as strict and i passed all that and got the prints so i doubt i have to do it again

[Rudolf the Red]

An FFL is a buisness license. Not a hobby. The Feds see it just as that,your main source of income. It's really expensive too,3K to apply for an 01 dealers FFL. Call them up and get an app. If your an insurance broker then the paper work won't phase you.

The paper work for my 03 is way more streamlined.

Why do people spread this myth?

I sell guns as a hobby. It cost less than $500 to start my business and took about 3 months from the FFL app. submission until I was on the CA list of certified dealers. Expect a visit from ATF during the process. All you need is the FFL application, a tax-exemption certificate from the state, a certificate of eligibility from DOJ, and a local business license for firearms sales, typically from your local chief LEO. The local license can be the tough part. Inquire about that first before you do the other stuff.

Any questions? Just ask.

[Greg-Dawg]

Feds?

So where do you start? Who do you contact?

[freakshow10mm]

An FFL is a buisness license. Not a hobby. The Feds see it just as that,your main source of income.

No, it doesn't have to be the main source of income.

It's really expensive too,3K to apply for an 01 dealers FFL.

That is completely false. It's $200 for the 01 FFL license. Why are people saying it's $3000 for the application? I never understood this.

Call them up and get an app. If your an insurance broker then the paper work won't phase you.

The paperwork for an FFL application can be done by a drunken monkey.

Why do people spread this myth?

I sell guns as a hobby. It cost less than $500 to start my business and took about 3 months from the FFL app. submission until I was on the CA list of certified dealers.

No, your business isn't a hobby, it's a part time business. See the difference.

[TonyM]

No, it doesn't have to be the main source of income.


That is completely false. It's $200 for the 01 FFL license. Why are people saying it's $3000 for the application? I never understood this.


The paperwork for an FFL application can be done by a drunken monkey.


No, your business isn't a hobby, it's a part time business. See the difference.

I agree completely.

Locality is usually the leading roadblock to getting an FFL, assuming you are of good moral character and are clean.

[hawk1]

The paperwork for an FFL application can be done by a drunken monkey.

Now there's a great sig line....

[jksupplyco]

Now that you've dealt with the ATF, you now deal with the California DOJ. How many threads have been started here complaining about the ATF?

[OCArmory]

The hardest part is getting your local business lisence's. You best bet is to contact the local zoning authority and see what is required to run a gun store in that area.
Mike

[tenring]

The hardest part is getting your local business lisence's. You best bet is to contact the local zoning authority and see what is required to run a gun store in that area.
Mike

+1 Check with local planning dept and/or sheriff/police chief before spending too much time with ATF or DOJ paperwork.

My 2 cents is that best case scenario, you are in for a significant amount of time, money, and effort spent for very little financial return. Just depends what your business and personal goals are.

[xrMike]

What if you wanted to specialize in a smaller segment of the business, say a seller of reloading components only, similar to what Powder Valley does?

That doesn't require an FFL, does it?

[tenring]

From BATF website...

A4) What kinds of ammunition are covered by the GCA? [Back]

Ammunition includes cartridge cases, primers, bullets or propellant powder designed for use in any firearm other than an antique firearm.

Items NOT covered include blank ammunition, tear gas ammunition, pellets and nonmetallic shotgun hulls without primers.

Generally, no records are required for ammunition transactions. However, information about the disposition of armor piercing ammunition is required to be entered into a record by importers, manufacturers, and collectors.

A license is not required for dealers in ammunition only.