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  • glock17_1986
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 653

    question about dros

    Hey guys i am pretty sure i know the answer but want to know from you guys. I am selling a firearm to a budy at work. Problem is he moved recently and hasnt changed his address on his licence or for his car registration. He asked can he still dros the gun? I said im pretty sure you cant but wanted to double check.

    Sorry if this seems stupid but i would rather ask and keep him out of trouble. I also wanted to know because i have never thougt about it before.
  • #2
    zerodameaon
    Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 243



    Originally posted by Gunsmith Dan
    IF your address is not current on your CA issued ID/License then you are required to show 2nd proof of residency. IF your information is current on your CA issued ID/License there is no requirement for 2nd proof of residency for Long Guns.

    The SSN# part is optional and even is printed "(optional)" on the 4473, the race part though is required by BATF&E. So while it might not cause any problems for the customer the Dealer gonna have a nightmare when audited by the BATF&E if they have a bunch of forms with that section blank.
    I thought there was part of the PC included there but pretty much this is what will be needed.

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    • #3
      glock17_1986
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 653

      Its for a pistol sorry i should have put that in there.

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      • #4
        zerodameaon
        Member
        • Mar 2015
        • 243

        I think you are still G2G. All you should need are any of the two following:

        Under Bureau of Firearms policy and in regulations, firearms dealers may accept any of the following:

        Utility bill reflecting services to a fixed place of residence. The utility bill must bear on its face both of the following:
        The name of the transferee.
        Either the residential address declared on the DROS form or the address as it appears on the transferee's identification.

        Residential lease that bears both of the following:
        The name of the transferee.
        Either the residential address declared by the transferee on the DROS form, or the address as it appears on the transferee's CDL or CID.

        Property deed the bears both of the following:
        The name of the transferee
        Either the residential address declared by the transferee on the DROS form, or the address as it appears on the transferee's CDL or CID.

        Government-issued (city, county, special district, state or federal) documentation that has all of the following - - This does not include a drivers license or DMV-issued ID card:
        The name of the transferee as it appears on the transferee's CDL or CID.
        The name of the transferee as the transferee declares on the DROS form.
        The residential address of the transferee as it appears on the transferee's CDL or CID or the address update attachment to the driver's license/identification card.
        The residential address of the transferee as the transferee declares on the DROS form.

        Examples of acceptable proof of residency pursuant to newly-proposed regulations:
        DMV registrations are NOW acceptable.
        Electricity, gas, cable bill from within the last 3 months.
        Signed and dated rental agreement/contract.

        Examples of documents that are NOT acceptable proof of residency:
        Hunting or fishing license (these documents are not issued by the government).
        Cellular phone bill.
        Passport.
        Pay stub.

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        • #5
          hermosabeach
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 19628

          Thread Jack

          One of my neighbors ended up with a bench warrant for a cell phone ticket and a fine, ticket cost,court cost over $1,000

          He never updated his address. The address on the ticket was correct but the system pulled what was on file.


          Long way of saying, have your friend set up a dmv account and update his address
          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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          • #6
            glock17_1986
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 653

            So they accept the little catd from the dmv that you keep with your license

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            • #7
              Mr. Beretta
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2005
              • 6614

              Originally posted by glock17_1986
              Hey guys i am pretty sure i know the answer but want to know from you guys. I am selling a firearm to a budy at work. Problem is he moved recently and hasnt changed his address on his licence or for his car registration. He asked can he still dros the gun? I said im pretty sure you cant but wanted to double check.

              Sorry if this seems stupid but i would rather ask and keep him out of trouble. I also wanted to know because i have never thougt about it before.

              A respectful suggestion.

              Why don't you post your questions in the FFL's Forum.

              There....you'll get the correct info from folks who do it for a living.

              Good luck.

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              • #8
                zerodameaon
                Member
                • Mar 2015
                • 243

                Originally posted by hermosabeach
                Thread Jack

                One of my neighbors ended up with a bench warrant for a cell phone ticket and a fine, ticket cost,court cost over $1,000

                He never updated his address. The address on the ticket was correct but the system pulled what was on file.


                Long way of saying, have your friend set up a dmv account and update his address
                On that note as well, if the officer messes up your address from your DL, the system will not pull your corrected address, they will pull what the officer wrote. So if you notice it is wrong on your ticket say something or you will get in trouble for his mess up.

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                • #9
                  stix213
                  AKA: Joe Censored
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 18998

                  Originally posted by zerodameaon
                  On that note as well, if the officer messes up your address from your DL, the system will not pull your corrected address, they will pull what the officer wrote. So if you notice it is wrong on your ticket say something or you will get in trouble for his mess up.
                  The only time that has happened to me, I immediately pointed it out and was told by the officer, "I can't change it, too bad". This was CHP in marin county. I'm sure he was just being lazy.

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                  • #10
                    glock17_1986
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 653

                    Thank you mr. Baretta i appreciate it. Hey i know what you guys are saying but can you please return to topic.

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                    • #11
                      JDay
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19393

                      Originally posted by glock17_1986
                      Its for a pistol sorry i should have put that in there.
                      He can bring two utility bills with his current address on them. Cable, electric and landline phone bills work.

                      EDIT: Another thing I've done was go to the DMV and get a replacement registration with my current address on it.
                      Last edited by JDay; 04-29-2015, 6:23 PM.
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                      • #12
                        glock17_1986
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 653

                        So if you bring two bills like cable and gas with the current address on them but different from your license then thats okay

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                        • #13
                          JDay
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19393

                          Originally posted by glock17_1986
                          So if you bring two bills like cable and gas with the current address on them but different from your license then thats okay
                          Yep. Tell him to update his address with DMV also.
                          Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                          The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                          • #14
                            glock17_1986
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 653

                            I didnt know that I thought your id had to have your current address on out

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