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  • lone shooter
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 2486

    AR500 Gongs

    Question for folks who own and use AR500 gongs. Where are you using these? Will any of the local ranges let you use them? I know Angeles and Oak Tree have area set up for pistols but what about for rilfes? Will either Burro Canyon or Lytle Creek allow them and if so typically at what distance?

    Just want to know before I shell out money on some.
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  • #2
    cwilliams
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 1244

    Yes for Angeles. 100 yards minimum for centerfire rifle. I have set smaller targets for rimfire between at 35-100 yards.

    No steel whatsoever at Burro.

    Lytle Creek might already have some steel up there, but I haven't been in a while.

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    • #3
      hermosabeach
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2009
      • 19594

      If you rent a private range, you can use them... same with public land....

      Fire danger is a real concern so clear brush and have a shovel & Extinguisher on hand


      If you set one out at a public range, many others will use/ abuse it
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      • #4
        NPFreedom
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1568

        Haven't been to Lytle Creek but at WEGC main range. U can use them at 50yds to 100yds.

        I heard u can use them at Raahauges but i don't know the specifics. The RO has to approve them first.
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        • #5
          lone shooter
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 2486

          Originally posted by cwilliams
          Yes for Angeles. 100 yards minimum for centerfire rifle. I have set smaller targets for rimfire between at 35-100 yards.

          No steel whatsoever at Burro.

          Lytle Creek might already have some steel up there, but I haven't been in a while.
          That's too bad about Burro because that's my range of choice (closest distance from home) but ASR would be #2 followed by Lytle.
          The koolaid only works if EVERYONE drinks it - Jim Jones

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          • #6
            lone shooter
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2014
            • 2486

            Originally posted by hermosabeach
            If you rent a private range, you can use them... same with public land....

            Fire danger is a real concern so clear brush and have a shovel & Extinguisher on hand


            If you set one out at a public range, many others will use/ abuse it
            Are you talking Burro Canyon? They have the "private" ranges.
            The koolaid only works if EVERYONE drinks it - Jim Jones

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            • #7
              Howie44
              C3 Specialist
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Sep 2002
              • 2005

              I have a few. We use them at WEGC for the C&R shoots, or out on our property in the desert. I don't take them anywhere else.

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              • #8
                coy80176
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 1917

                USI, multi purpose range

                For members, hang steel targets from 25 to 200 yds.

                it's tough to see in the pic, there's a 4" gong at 50 yds and a 10" gong at 200 yds. I normally also have a 6 "er at 100 or 200.
                At the closest distance, i/we shoot pistolas only
                Last edited by coy80176; 04-29-2015, 3:03 PM.


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                • #9
                  Braddah Jay
                  Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 395

                  I use a 10" gong at Desert Marksman in Acton (private range)

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                  • #10
                    Waking Heavy
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 236

                    I use one on my property. A 1/2" thick 8 incher at 100-200 yards. Hung with a 20* angle down. Don't hang from smallish wood or the splatter will eat through the vertical supports.

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                    • #11
                      whipkiller
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 3461

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                      • #12
                        cwilliams
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1244

                        Originally posted by lone shooter
                        That's too bad about Burro because that's my range of choice (closest distance from home) but ASR would be #2 followed by Lytle.

                        Burro and Lytle Creek are both on National Forest land, and Lytle seems to be the less restrictive of the two. Though, you might give them both a call and see what they currently allow.

                        West End is the place to be if you want to shoot your own steel. BLM is also a good choice. Setting anything out at a public range risks having your target and stand damaged.

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                        • #13
                          lone shooter
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 2486

                          Yeah, I'll call them up.

                          Thanks!!
                          The koolaid only works if EVERYONE drinks it - Jim Jones

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                          • #14
                            lone shooter
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 2486

                            So I picked up some AR500 gongs they have over in the deals thread. Anyway, hoping to use them at the SSZS and I called Lytle and was told yes > 100 yrds.
                            The koolaid only works if EVERYONE drinks it - Jim Jones

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                            • #15
                              cwilliams
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 1244

                              1. Make sure whatever size gong you have that the stand will stay upright upon impact. Swing it back and forth somewhat violently to see the effects before you get to the range. Nothing ruins a shooting session more than a flimsy stand. I've been battling this for a while. It's hard to find a balance between portability, durability, stability, and price.

                              2. Bullet velocity is what kills a target. 100 yards for 223/5.56 will leave some minor pitting. Bi-metal and steel core will also kill it faster.

                              3. You either buy strong hardware less frequently that costs a small percentage more which has a very long life, or you buy cheap hardware that you will likely be replacing every range session. Use grade 8 bolts and washers, and grade 70 chain (if you use chain).

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