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  • #76
    MrPlink
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2010
    • 12532

    Mitchells Mausers deserve their own subforum if you want to talk about all the Fd up stuff that guy has pulled.

    I'd easily jump on the Ruger and SEI bandwagon, but it's not hard for me since I don't care for their products much in the first place.

    Robinson is another that I wouldn't give a red cent to.
    The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

    disclaimer:
    everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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    • #77
      Bansh88
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 2500

      Originally posted by mafbloggerdanny
      i am curious why several people have mentioned Troy Industries? Was there a big customer service incident or problem I was unaware of? Why do so many people have beef?

      EDIT -- Is this why? http://bearingarms.com/troy-industri...nti-gun-hires/
      Pretty much. Troy, more or less, has no problem with murdering women and children over a sawed-off shotgun case.

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      • #78
        Milsurpguy2000
        Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 170

        Originally posted by MrPlink
        Mitchells Mausers deserve their own subforum if you want to talk about all the Fd up stuff that guy has pulled.
        This + 1000

        All other companies have been mentioned.

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        • #79
          FNP45TACTICAL
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 705

          Originally posted by Bansh88
          Pretty much. Troy, more or less, has no problem with murdering women and children over a sawed-off shotgun case.
          Hey - he was just following orders.............. To murder a woman holding a child through a window over a sawed off shotgun case.

          I always liked Troy products. I will never buy another Troy product and I will gladly donate money to some business crushing lawsuit to put them out of business. I'd like to see Troy go Red Jacket.

          ETA- same task force that handled Waco so well.
          Last edited by FNP45TACTICAL; 04-29-2015, 7:47 AM.

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          • #80
            RedFord150
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2009
            • 5665

            Originally posted by 357magnum
            Taurus
            I have looked at them many times, but just can't buy one.
            Originally posted by 3006Garand
            Jennings
            ^^^I did buy guns from both of these companies and regretted it. Both guns are long gone. Thankfully, Jennings went out of business years ago and most of their guns have been recycled into soda cans.
            God Did Not Create All Men Equal, Colonel Colt Did.

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            • #81
              2shotjoe
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2011
              • 26284

              Originally posted by mafbloggerdanny
              i am curious why several people have mentioned Troy Industries? Was there a big customer service incident or problem I was unaware of? Why do so many people have beef?

              EDIT -- Is this why? http://bearingarms.com/troy-industri...nti-gun-hires/
              oh damn, first time i've seen this.
              Originally posted by Kestryll
              ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
              Originally posted by Libertarian777
              ...Don't pick either side....

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              • #82
                The Gleam
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2011
                • 11361

                Originally posted by madoka
                I would like to know why.
                I actually laughed out loud about your reply because I thought it was a joke.

                I should go back and re-edit by original post to include Mitchell's Mausers scams and obliteration of history. I'd feel more confident buying a Bubba'd sporter having retained more historical accuracy than anything from that debauchery of an organization. They should be brought up on RICO charges!
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                Originally posted by Librarian
                What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                • #83
                  The Gleam
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 11361

                  Originally posted by MrPlink

                  Robinson is another that I wouldn't give a red cent to.
                  Robinson-Armanent's biggest self-hinderance is their R&D and Engineering teams have the attention span of a gnat watching MTV on amphetamines. They build great stuff, have great ideas, then drop the entire platform before it gets a following.

                  I still think the M96 is one of the best modern semi-auto rifle/carbine platforms introduced since the AR-180, and minus the temporary barrel-connectivity issue they had which were partly impatience and lack of methodical attention on the end-users part, everything about the gun imbues quality matierals, with old-world German-like detail, and an awesome build, with great ideas for versatility, chambering etc. - then they dropped it like a rock mid-stream to go off chasing a government contract to beat the M4 - that they didn't win, and should have known they wouldn't.

                  In this post 2004, OLL/OLR world, they are missing out on a huge segment that would love to see the M96 available again. There is nothing currently like it, and whatever comes close is just not as stout. Yet if they ever bring it back, if they ever release the belt-feed adaptor they promised for the M96, I'll be first in line with cash in hand.
                  Last edited by The Gleam; 04-29-2015, 11:32 AM.
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                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                  If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                  • #84
                    Mitch
                    Mostly Harmless
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6574

                    Originally posted by 2761377
                    still feeling the hate. will not buy new Smith & Wesson. or any used guns made since 1999.
                    That's sensible, considering S&W has completely new shareholders and management since then, and the new owners actually apologized for the actions of the previous owners.
                    Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                    Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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                    • #85
                      aklon
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 3012

                      Sig.

                      Bad experience with their guns, worse with their customer service people.
                      Freedom is the dream you dream while putting thought in chains.

                      - Giacomo Leopardi

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                      • #86
                        BigPimping
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 21388

                        Originally posted by PseudoTsuga
                        A face only a mother could love.
                        Ever since I first saw one in the eighties, I thought it was the ugliest gun I'd ever seen. Slide looks like a skyscraper. Like, you couldn't possibly design it to have a higher bore axis. Weird stamped sheet metal trigger looks like it came off of a cap gun or an old Howdy Doody toy revolver.
                        It's all aesthetically out of whack for me.
                        Has nothing to do with their business practices or the time their ceo almost ran the company into the ground and they had all the qc issues.
                        I just think they're gawdawful fugly.
                        But then again, I think the absolutely spartan glock is beautiful, so I fully realize I could be crazy. To me, when you can't take anything else away from the design without affecting function, then you've reached perfection.
                        There is no substitute.
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                        • #87
                          TMB 1
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 7153

                          GLOCK
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                          • #88
                            BigPimping
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 21388

                            Originally posted by Euphoria526
                            Glock. Straight up.
                            That means more for me!!!!!!!!
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                            • #89
                              BigPimping
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 21388

                              Jiminez and Raven come to mind.
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                              • #90
                                RedFord150
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 5665

                                Originally posted by BigPimping
                                Jiminez and Raven come to mind.
                                ^^^I had to look up Jiminez. This was formerly Bryco, formerly Raven, formerly Jennings. The Jennings name was used longer than the others and even simultaneously with Jiminez. Apparently, Mr. Jiminez was the factory foreman for Bryco.

                                Jiminez now makes a modernized version of my old Jennings J-22. After owning the Jennings, I can tell you that Jiminez could not possibly do much worse.

                                Thanks for the lesson.
                                God Did Not Create All Men Equal, Colonel Colt Did.

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