I have searched for the answer but I have not been able to find it so I know that when building an ar pistol certain steps must be followed for it to be legal although that in itself is still a grey area. So my question is, is it legal to finish a 1911 80% lower and assemble it since its not on the roster?
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I was wondering about this myself -
Build it as a single shot, straight pull bolt action by putting in a 50 lb recoil spring (BUT DON'T FIRE IT THIS WAY) with a wooden or plastic mag blank and no mag release catch. Theoretically, firing a single shot would not move the slide to the rear and so it would not reciprocate.
Then, having built it as a single shot, put in a standard recoil spring and a mag catch?"Show me a hero and I'll write you a tragedy."
-F. Scott FitzgeraldComment
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So same process as a ar pistol?Comment
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Needs to be made to comply with CA unsafe handgun laws, CA dangerous weapons laws, and CA zip gun laws.I have searched for the answer but I have not been able to find it so I know that when building an ar pistol certain steps must be followed for it to be legal although that in itself is still a grey area. So my question is, is it legal to finish a 1911 80% lower and assemble it since its not on the roster?
Unless you will be making it into a semi-auto pistol with a chamber load indicator (CLI), magazine disconnect mechanism (MDM), microstamping array, and submitting it to CA DOJ to be tested, it will need to be made as a dimensionally compliant single-shot break-top or bolt-action pistol.
Therefore, when completed your "80% receiver" will need to have:
1. a minimum 6" barrel length
2. a minimum 10.5" overall length
3. a break-top action or a bolt-action
4. a maglock + 0 round magazines/sledsigpic
"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).Comment
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So then it cant be converted to semi after its made as a single shot?Needs to be made to comply with CA unsafe handgun laws, CA dangerous weapons laws, and CA zip gun laws.
Unless you will be making it into a semi-auto pistol with a chamber load indicator (CLI), magazine disconnect mechanism (MDM), microstamping array, and submitting it to CA DOJ to be tested, it will need to be made as a dimensionally compliant single-shot break-top or bolt-action pistol.
Therefore, when completed your "80% receiver" will need to have:
1. a minimum 6" barrel length
2. a minimum 10.5" overall length
3. a break-top action or a bolt-action
4. a maglock + 0 round magazines/sledComment
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so then I could finish the 80% lower, attach the limited-10 break top upper and have it assembled by me to be within the law and not "manufactured" which I could then later remove the break top upper and add a regular slide to it.
the problem here is would the DOJ see this a manufacturing an unsafe handgun or and illegal handgun?Comment
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wth are you talking about not manufacturing something?
Build the thing as Quiet explained, you will have legally manufactured a handgun in CA. Since CA has no laws preventing you from altering a handgun from it's original configuration, you can reconfigure it as a semiauto handgun.Comment
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So then if I do the mentioned steps above do I need to register it? Or how am I supposed to prove that I followed the correct process when/if asked by LEOComment
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Go to the gunsmithing threads and do a search. Vaderspade (a vendor on Calguns) has done a few. Also provides the service of engraving 80%ers.Comment
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Do any of those single shot tops for 1911's give you the correct overall length? I know I have seen them I just can't remember who makes them.Comment
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