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  • pullnshoot25
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 8068

    Making progress!

    So I have called the security company that employs the guards that illegally detained me the other day for OC and on the third time in two days of calling I finally got word that the Human Resources Representative for the company has been informed of my situation and will be getting back to me in short order! I can hardly wait to hear the outcome of this.

    Better yet will be if the mall has no statute about weapons in the mall and the security guards were trying to enforce a rule that doesn't exist.

    I'll keep you guys posted!
  • #2
    tmuller
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 1839

    What? Can you post the thread, if you made one, that talks about the original event?

    I thought you were from Escondido, was this at North County Fair? Too crazy, tag.
    WTB - prelock smith 44's

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    • #3
      devildog999
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2008
      • 5534

      Originally posted by pullnshoot25
      So I have called the security company that employs the guards that illegally detained me the other day for OC and on the third time in two days of calling I finally got word that the Human Resources Representative for the company has been informed of my situation and will be getting back to me in short order! I can hardly wait to hear the outcome of this.

      Better yet will be if the mall has no statute about weapons in the mall and the security guards were trying to enforce a rule that doesn't exist.

      I'll keep you guys posted!
      Actually, Security Guards cannot legally detain you. Only LEO can detain. If a Security Officer stops you and won't let you leave, he has arrested you. If you are not charged/convicted of a felony, it is illegal arrest. I know this because I am a security officer and they made sure we understood this. You could even have charges brought and sue if you wanted.
      Originally posted by TRAP55
      Or your ammo stash has replaced your wifes parking spot in the garage.
      When my neighbor asked what all those crates were, I told him if he sees smoke coming from my garage, and me running down the street......he better catch up!
      Originally posted by Steve O
      Just go to safeway to shop for food. The young good looking couple buying healthy food...they're a new couple. The fat ones wearing ****ty clothes not caring about how they look, getting frozen food...they're married!

      sigpic

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      • #4
        Spyder
        CGN Contributor
        • Mar 2008
        • 17156

        Originally posted by pullnshoot25

        Better yet will be if the mall has no statute about weapons in the mall and the security guards were trying to enforce a rule that doesn't exist.

        I'll keep you guys posted!
        Shouldn't you have figured this out BEFORE you went?

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        • #5
          pullnshoot25
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 8068

          Originally posted by Spyder
          Shouldn't you have figured this out BEFORE you went?
          No signs posted, no reason to think otherwise

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          • #6
            pullnshoot25
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 8068

            Originally posted by tmuller
            What? Can you post the thread, if you made one, that talks about the original event?

            I thought you were from Escondido, was this at North County Fair? Too crazy, tag.
            I am from Escondido! Yes, it was North County Fair.

            Here is the link to the story on my blog.

            Well everyone, I FINALLY got the cops called on me! It all started with getting off of work and then heading up north to go to N. County Fai...

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            • #7
              Riodog
              Banned
              • Feb 2006
              • 1127

              The only problem with this is::::::: Most "security guards" are pos that do not have any assets. That means that should you sue them personally, you would get nothing but a piece of paper. Include the mall, security company, etc. in your law suite. I'm to the point that if I'm faultlessly arrested you will find that assh*les body in the desert. I don't do illegal and I'll be damned if some lowlife-wannabee will put a stain on my record.
              Rio

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              • #8
                nobs11
                Banned
                • Jun 2008
                • 1381

                Originally posted by Riodog
                I'm to the point that if I'm faultlessly arrested you will find that assh*les body in the desert. I don't do illegal and I'll be damned if some lowlife-wannabee will put a stain on my record.
                Rio
                Calm down man A lot of these guys are just ordinary folks trying to put food on the table like everyone else.

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                • #9
                  kmca
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 2371

                  I don't think you were falsely arrested, but you may have been kidnapped.

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                  • #10
                    F-2_Challenger
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 1102

                    Get a lawyer and go after the mall.

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                    • #11
                      Bobula
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2007
                      • 9386

                      Originally posted by devildog999
                      Actually, Security Guards cannot legally detain you. Only LEO can detain. If a Security Officer stops you and won't let you leave, he has arrested you. If you are not charged/convicted of a felony, it is illegal arrest. I know this because I am a security officer and they made sure we understood this. You could even have charges brought and sue if you wanted.
                      You may also arrest for misdemeanors and infractions, as a citizen or security officer/guard. Your company might just make it a felony only rule.
                      And it's a false imprisonment, not an illegal arrest.
                      Originally posted by Kestryll
                      Yeah, don't tell that rat bastard Kestryll, he'll shut it down.

                      Fascist pig....

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                      • #12
                        nagorb
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 4355

                        Sounds liberal to me

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                        • #13
                          pullnshoot25
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 8068

                          I am actually pretty stoked that I am getting results. Time to stick it to these bizatches!

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                          • #14
                            dark45
                            Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 217

                            Originally posted by Bobula
                            You may also arrest for misdemeanors and infractions, as a citizen or security officer/guard. Your company might just make it a felony only rule.
                            And it's a false imprisonment, not an illegal arrest.
                            you have to have seen the misdemeanor / infraction to arrest, but a felony you can arrest regardless if you witnessed the crime. i thought thats how it works for non- LEO?

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                            • #15
                              JDay
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19393

                              Originally posted by kmca
                              I don't think you were falsely arrested, but you may have been kidnapped.
                              I'm 99% sure that he would have to be moved against his will for it to be kidnapping.
                              Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                              The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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