UC Davis murder suicide

[robodeer]

After all. the kid had an FN SCAR. An FN SCAR!!

Responding to shots fired with whatever they have (MRAP or other) isn't stepping over the line IMO, but I know that we disagree on that. When would you say it's appropriate?

[tankton]

Didn't Davis protest those MRAPs not too long ago, and banished them to some town outside of the city?

[safewaysecurity]

I attend UC Davis and didn't hear anything about this until I logged on Calguns.

[CK_32]

Well I am back in school surrounded by kids in their 20s and 30s.

Tha eplains it lol

As soon as your done, log off and run. Run as fast as you can. FB isn't worth the raised blood pressure. I didn't realize how heated seeing people (college kids) comment in ignorance and be so sure of something they know nothing about and people just posting tragety after tragety and social movement after social movement irritated me and my BP.

Especially when half of the stories are fake or just brought up to create a public outcry and drama.

[Mitch]

Responding to shots fired with whatever they have (MRAP or other) isn't stepping over the line IMO, but I know that we disagree on that. When would you say it's appropriate?

I am not bothered by MRAPs; MRAPs are harmless. A waste of money, perhaps, but harmless. I am happy as long as they aren't pointing their guns at anyone.

What is somewhat humorous and mildly irritating is the heightened fear and alarm resulting from the photo of the FN SCAR. As if a Winchester Model 70 would be any less dangerous in the wrong hands.

The photo could just as easily been of an AR-15 and the reaction would have been the same. Yet the AR-15 is the most popular centerfire rifle in America, by far. Do we really expect (and excuse) such outsized response to the suspected presence of the most popular rifle in America?

Americans have kept firearms at home since, oh, the beginning. If half of American households possess firearms, then statistically speaking half of the residences to which police are called for any reason must have guns present (and half do not: it's a 50:50 chance). So if they are going to be as rational about this as they pretend . . . those MRAPs are going to clock up a lot of mileage on the odometer.

[NYT]

very sad indeed. i dont fault the officers at all arriving in an mrad.

[robodeer]

Americans have kept firearms at home since, oh, the beginning. If half of American households possess firearms, then statistically speaking half of the residences to which police are called for any reason must have guns present (and half do not: it's a 50:50 chance). So if they are going to be as rational about this as they pretend . . . those MRAPs are going to clock up a lot of mileage on the odometer.

I hear that. The overreaction to anything perceived as "scary" can be a bit much. That reminds me of an article from a shooting in the UK where the cab driver used a shotgun and a .22 (I think). Lots of people over there had no idea what to think for a while after that. Proper respect should be par for course. Overreactions... hopefully less so.

[American Samurai]

Was it a case of obsession on the part of the male? "If I can't have you, no one will".

[robodeer]

Speaking of which, have you ever noticed that "non-gun people" would tiptoe around an AR or similar, but they'd be way more open to something like a bolt action rifle or shotgun? The ingrained fear is palpable. No fault to them since they've never been properly introduced to such things, but still..

[NYT]

Speaking of which, have you ever noticed that "non-gun people" would tiptoe around an AR or similar, but they'd be way more open to something like a bolt action rifle or shotgun? The ingrained fear is palpable. No fault to them since they've never been properly introduced to such things, but still..

ive seen gun people tiptoe around an AR. my grandfather is still nervous about using one and he will school most on how to field strip a garand.

[Mitch]

ive seen gun people tiptoe around an AR. my grandfather is still nervous about using one and he will school most on how to field strip a garand.

On February 16, 2007, Jim Zumbo published an entry on his blog which read, in part:

I must be living in a vacuum. The guides on our hunt tell me that the use of AR and AK rifles have a rapidly growing following among hunters, especially prairie dog hunters. I had no clue. Only once in my life have I ever seen anyone using one of these firearms.

I call them "assault" rifles, which may upset some people. Excuse me, maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity. I'll go so far as to call them "terrorist" rifles. They tell me that some companies are producing assault rifles that are "tackdrivers."

Sorry, folks, in my humble opinion, these things have no place in hunting. We don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them, which is an obvious concern. I've always been comfortable with the statement that hunters don't use assault rifles. We've always been proud of our "sporting firearms."

This really has me concerned. As hunters, we don't need the image of walking around the woods carrying one of these weapons. To most of the public, an assault rifle is a terrifying thing. Let's divorce ourselves from them. I say game departments should ban them from the prairies and woods.

My father (USMC 1949-1955) could field strip an M1 with his eyes closed. Sadly, by the time I got into AR-15s his vision had gotten bad enough that he was no longer interested in shooting and disposed of all his guns. Which is too bad, I think he would have loved the AR-15. He sure enjoyed his Mini-14.

[L84CABO]

On February 16, 2007, Jim Zumbo published an entry on his blog which read, in part:

Who is Jim Zumbo? I mean, besides an idiot?

[zerodameaon]

Didn't Davis protest those MRAPs not too long ago, and banished them to some town outside of the city?

Woodland, right up the freeway from them, still close enough to respond fast but out of sight out of mind for the populace.

There are lots of scary keywords all over that article yet it is interesting that the incident did not garner much media attention.

Who is Jim Zumbo? I mean, besides an idiot?

That is a good question, I just dug around his blog and he is talking about drones for hunting and such. He talks about using a 60 dollar drone for hunting but I do not think he realizes how useless that will end up being but regardless using a drone for hunting in CA would be considered poaching.

[rice_man]

This is truly sad. One of the interviews in San Diego she had lined up was at the veterinary hospital my wife works at. My wife said the owner was surprised that someone would not show up for an interview and not call or notify a prospective employer. They found out why not too long afterwards.

Very, very sad.

[ja308]

Who is Jim Zumbo? I mean, besides an idiot?

Jim Zumbo was or is a gun writer . IIRC he changed his mind on this issue after customers of the magazines he was writing for were outraged enough to cancell subscrpitions .