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  • #31
    vliberatore
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2011
    • 10055

    Originally posted by JDay
    The way the law is written you could be charged for having a spring for a standard-capacity magazine.
    Where exactly do you get that from this?

    32311. (a) Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with Section 32400) of this chapter and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, commencing January 1, 2014, any person in this state who knowingly manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, buys, or receives any large capacity magazine conversion kit is punishable by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000) or imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed six months, or by both that fine and imprisonment. This section does not apply to a fully assembled large-capacity magazine, which is governed by Section 32310. (b) For purposes of this section, a "large capacity magazine conversion kit" is a device or combination of parts of a fully functioning large-capacity magazine, including, but not limited to, the body, spring, follower, and floor plate or end plate, capable of converting an ammunition feeding device into a large-capacity magazine.
    "Combination of parts" means that a single part alone is not verboten.
    Last edited by vliberatore; 03-28-2015, 8:19 PM.
    Originally posted by fighterpilot562
    Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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    • #32
      BigPimping
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2010
      • 21421

      Turn the other cheek.
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      • #33
        CSACANNONEER
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        • Dec 2006
        • 44093

        Originally posted by BigPimping
        Turn the other cheek.
        When visiting FP's basement, this is either great advise or terrible advise depending on what you are into.
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        • #34
          M1NM
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2011
          • 7966

          How about I sell the mag & follower with the gun and the wife sells the spring and floor plate to the same guy 5 minutes after we complete the DROS? California is a community property state so my wife and I own all our mags jointly.

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          • #35
            vintagearms
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2009
            • 6841

            Originally posted by M1NM
            How about I sell the mag & follower with the gun and the wife sells the spring and floor plate to the same guy 5 minutes after we complete the DROS? California is a community property state so my wife and I own all our mags jointly.
            The mag body is where you will run into issues as it is a part specified in the law as part of a high capacity mag.

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            • #36
              vliberatore
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Dec 2011
              • 10055

              Originally posted by vintagearms
              The mag body is where you will run into issues as it is a part specified in the law as part of a high capacity mag.
              So is the spring.

              The body and follower won't convert any magazine to standard capacity.
              Originally posted by fighterpilot562
              Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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              • #37
                QuarterBoreGunner
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                • Oct 2005
                • 9389

                Originally posted by Spaceghost
                Wow, who cares?
                I care, and that's all that really matters.

                Originally posted by 1sicklx
                Mind your own business
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                Originally posted by BigPimping
                Turn the other cheek.
                Normally I'd agree, but Kes's House, Kes's Rules and we do not allow the sale of 'rebuild kits' here.

                If you see illegal items listed in the marketplace, please report it. We'll take it from there. Normally it's just a case of the seller being unaware and 99% of the time they're okay with being informed and the item being pulled.

                If you want to troll for breaking the law, do it elsewhere.
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                Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
                Like who?
                Farmers.
                Who else?
                Farmers' mums.

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                • #38
                  JDay
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19393

                  Originally posted by vliberatore
                  Where exactly do you get that from this?



                  "Combination of parts" means that a single part alone is not verboten.
                  Read it again. A spring is a device, as is each individual part.
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                  • #39
                    vliberatore
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 10055

                    Originally posted by JDay
                    Read it again. A spring is a device, as is each individual part.
                    Floor plates and followers are listed too. It doesn't make either one able to covert a reduced capacity magazine to standard capacity.

                    I posted about that before. You might try to read that first. For what you say to be true, then any reduced capacity magazine is illegal since they use the same followers and floor plates as standard capacity magazines.
                    Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                    Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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                    • #40
                      AregularGuy
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 2792

                      Originally posted by vliberatore
                      Floor plates and followers are listed too. It doesn't make either one able to covert a reduced capacity magazine to standard capacity.

                      I posted about that before. You might try to read that first. For what you say to be true, then any reduced capacity magazine is illegal since they use the same followers and floor plates as standard capacity magazines.
                      A follower might if the factory 10 rounders are limited by the follower with a built in extension to limit pushing in more than 10 rounds, a la springfield xd 9mm.
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                      • #41
                        JDay
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 19393

                        Originally posted by vliberatore
                        Floor plates and followers are listed too. It doesn't make either one able to covert a reduced capacity magazine to standard capacity.

                        I posted about that before. You might try to read that first. For what you say to be true, then any reduced capacity magazine is illegal since they use the same followers and floor plates as standard capacity magazines.
                        There you go, trying to make sense of California gun laws. You should know better by now. These laws aren't supposed to make sense.
                        Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                        The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                        • #42
                          vliberatore
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 10055

                          Originally posted by JDay
                          There you go, trying to make sense of California gun laws. You should know better by now. These laws aren't supposed to make sense.
                          Good point. Logic is absent when drafting these laws.
                          Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                          Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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