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  • Chelonian
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 20

    In More Danger With A Gun?

    I was at Turners, and noticed an older woman with a cane, asking to look at a center fire semi pistol for protection. The clerk checked the gun to make sure that it was safe, and handed it to her. The woman struggled to rack the slide and couldn't do it, as she did not have the strength. She really struggled with the gun but could not rack it. She finally gave up, and asked about .223's. The salesperson mentioned a revolver, and she said that she will think about it and left. I don't fault the store or it's employees, if a customer ask to see a gun, they must comply. This woman should realize that she may be in more danger with a gun, as it could possibly be taken away from her and used on her. I also think that, in this case, she's better off with pepper spray and a life alert! Believe me, it was scary to see her trying to rack the gun!
  • #2
    pdq_wizzard
    Veteran Member
    • May 2008
    • 3813

    what kind of gun?
    did it have a 4" or less slide? small guns have heavy recoil springs.

    Most people can work a slide if they are shown a good technique.
    Q: What was the most positive result of the "Cash for Clunkers" program?
    A: It took 95% of the Obama bumper stickers off the road.

    Originally posted by M. Sage
    More what? More crazy?
    You live in California. There's always more crazy. It's a renewable resource.

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    • #3
      Dano3467
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2013
      • 7381

      Had a neighbor lady who in her 80's had a 25-20 under her pillow, wanted me to clean it for her. I can understand that using a gun like that could be tough for her, but it would be even tougher on an attacker, it is her right of that theirs no doubt.

      If she (that lady in store) wanted or need a gun (for protection ?), then she knows that she'd have no chance at all without a gun.

      The quote of Samual Colt immediately comes to mind. God made man, but Colt made them equal.

      She obviously knows of this, and is probably bound to exercise it, & will find one (HG) Or rifle to suit her.

      So good for her.

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      • #4
        Mr. Beretta
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2005
        • 6614

        Revolvers are best for our mature friends.

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        • #5
          Kowan
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2015
          • 1474

          Originally posted by Mr. Beretta
          Revolvers are best for our mature friends.
          Agreed and would be my advice to her.

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          • #6
            Chelonian
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 20

            God bless her for wanting to protect herself with her right to a gun, but she has to use her head. She looked at what appeared to be a full size 9, I'm not sure of the brand. It occurred to me that if some smart aleck anti gun news reporter saw this, some bleeding hearts will want to pass another law aimed at seniors, which I am one of.

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            • #7
              brianm767
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 2377

              Revolver.

              But I agree with pdq wizzard, I've worked with alot of females or weaker guys who had issues racking a slide, once shown how to push the gun through while holding the slide rather than holding the gun and try to pull the slide back to them, many of them can do it without a problem.
              Last edited by brianm767; 03-18-2015, 10:04 AM.

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              • #8
                MudCamper
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 4606

                Originally posted by Chelonian
                This woman should realize that she may be in more danger with a gun, as it could possibly be taken away from her and used on her. I also think that, in this case, she's better off with pepper spray and a life alert! Believe me, it was scary to see her trying to rack the gun!
                Utter nonsense. This is a classic anti-gun fallacy.

                She just needs to get a nice little 38 revolver, and she'll be fine.

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                • #9
                  Chelonian
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 20

                  Even a .22 revolver. Semis are the hot ticket, but I always recommend a revolver for "non gun" people. In many ways, using a revolver takes a lot less thinking or skill.

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                  • #10
                    rambutan316
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 705

                    Smith and Wesson Model 10.

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                    • #11
                      Jimi Jah
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 19476

                      S&W 500, why shoot twice?

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                      • #12
                        Chelonian
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 20

                        Just thought of it. I have a 1934 .380 Beretta, and it takes Hercules to rack the slide with the hammer down. I usually cock the hammer to rack the gun.

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                        • #13
                          MudCamper
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 4606

                          Origins of the "your gun will be used against you" nonsense: http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdgaga.html

                          For example, another way of looking at it is, more martial artists are probably murdered by non-gun methods than they kill in self-defense. Would we conclude that it is best to avoid learning a martial art for self-defense based on such a "nonsense ratio?"

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                          • #14
                            boopiejones
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 2044

                            another vote for revolver. no slide to rack and my 686ssr feels like a bb gun shooting 38 special.

                            as a side note, racking a slide isn't so much about strength as it is about technique. i remember my first time trying to rack a slide on a handgun. it wasn't easy fumbling the gun while trying to keep my finger from curling into the trigger guard... and i can bench press more than 2x my body weight.
                            Last edited by boopiejones; 03-18-2015, 10:26 AM.
                            my Benitez goes to 11

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                            • #15
                              rivraton
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 1241

                              Originally posted by Chelonian
                              I was at Turners, and noticed an older woman with a cane, asking to look at a center fire semi pistol for protection. The clerk checked the gun to make sure that it was safe, and handed it to her. The woman struggled to rack the slide and couldn't do it, as she did not have the strength. She really struggled with the gun but could not rack it. She finally gave up, and asked about .223's. The salesperson mentioned a revolver, and she said that she will think about it and left. I don't fault the store or it's employees, if a customer ask to see a gun, they must comply. This woman should realize that she may be in more danger with a gun, as it could possibly be taken away from her and used on her. I also think that, in this case, she's better off with pepper spray and a life alert! Believe me, it was scary to see her trying to rack the gun!
                              A possible solution:

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