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  • masameet
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 4487

    Having a loaded weapon in the nightstand ...

    ... Turned out to be a good thing for one Modesto couple.

    Good shooting!

    A man who had stalked and threatened a former roommate forced his way into her southwest Modesto home early Sunday and attacked her and her husband with a machete before one of the victims shot him dead, officials and neighbors said.

    Police said the couple had been granted a restraining order against the man, whom neighbors described as "psychotic" and "a stalker."

    "They were roommates two years ago," said one neighbor. "She moved him out, but he kept stalking her."

    The man who died Sunday was in his 50s, police said. They would not release his name because his family had not been notified. Police have not said how the intruder and the victims knew each other, but said the attack was "domestic violence-involved."

    Just before 2 a.m., neighbors said, the man broke a window near the front door and got into the home on the 1500 block of Victor Way. He attacked the couple in their bedroom with a machete, they said.

    Police said one victim shot the intruder; they would not say whether it was the husband or wife. Police would not confirm what weapon the intruder used or where the attack took place. No one else was home, they said.

    The intruder had caused problems for months, authorities and neighbors said. One neighbor said she saw the man peering down the street with binoculars, and that he'd been spotted on Halloween sneaking around a nearby alley. Another said the man had been living illegally in a vacant house across the street, stalking the woman from there.

    Police are investigating that possibility, said spokesman Sgt. Brian Findlen. Authorities won't decide whether the couple could face any charges until the investigation is complete.

    Police arrested the man in March when he reportedly threatened the woman and vandalized her vehicle.

    A judge issued a restraining order against the man in April, Findlen said, requiring the man to stay 100 yards from the couple and their home, jobs and vehicles. But the victim told police Oct. 13 that the man violated the order by approaching her at a grocery store.

    A neighbor identified the man as John L. Ward, and Stanislaus County court records connect a man by that name to one of the victims.

    Neighbors did not want to be named because of recent area violence. Two weeks ago, a man was shot and killed and a second man wounded while they sat in a car blocks away.

    Sunday morning's death was the third serious domestic violence-related shooting in five weeks, and the second of the weekend. In late September, a man killed himself and his wife in east Modesto. Saturday, an Oakdale man distraught over finances apparently shot his wife and adult son, who died, before killing himself. His wife was in critical condition Saturday; no update was available Sunday.

    But Sunday's attack was the first linked to stalking. Most stalkers who know their victims had a romantic relationship with them or otherwise lived together, according to the U.S. Department of Justice. Stalking can take a serious toll on victims' lives, leading to anxiety attacks, depression and other physical and emotional problems.

    Stalking victims should document every phone call, sighting or other attempted communication, said Belinda Rolicheck, executive director of Haven Women's Center. The agency offers many resources for domestic violence and sexual assault victims in Stanislaus County. Beyond keeping a paper trail, she said, the best advice is not to respond.

    "They perceive any sort of contact in a positive way, so it's best just not to answer the calls," she said. "They don't take 'no' for an answer and they can be clearly very dangerous."
    Source: Modesto Bee
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  • #2
    dixieD
    • Jun 2006
    • 2654

    Originally posted by masameet
    (from article) Authorities won't decide whether the couple could face any charges until the investigation is complete.
    Man breaks into home, and attacks couple in their bedroom with a machette and there is this nonsense from the "authorities." Authorities at what prosecuting victims? Unbelievable....
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    • #3
      stphnman20
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2005
      • 6583

      First the lady with the shotgun, now this!

      HELL YEAH!

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      • #4
        kermit315
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2007
        • 5928

        wonder how he got past the background check for the machete?

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        • #5
          rrr70
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 1832

          Good kill.
          "The police cannot protect the citizen at this stage of our development, and they cannot even protect themselves in many cases. It is up to the private citizen to protect himself and his family, and this is not only acceptable, but mandatory" Jeff Cooper

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          • #6
            stphnman20
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2005
            • 6583

            Originally posted by kermit315
            wonder how he got past the background check for the machete?
            Machete show loophole!

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            • #7
              rrr70
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 1832

              Originally posted by stphnman20
              Machete show loophole!
              You mean Knife Show?
              We need to close this loophole. Knife Shows are dangerous for our comunities.
              "The police cannot protect the citizen at this stage of our development, and they cannot even protect themselves in many cases. It is up to the private citizen to protect himself and his family, and this is not only acceptable, but mandatory" Jeff Cooper

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              • #8
                Greg-Dawg
                Banned
                • Oct 2006
                • 7793

                Guns save lives.

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                • #9
                  Standard
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3676

                  I live in Modesto, and keep a loaded handgun in the nightstand. Glad this ended with the bad guy dead and not the innocents.

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                  • #10
                    emc002
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 2331

                    Originally posted by masameet
                    A judge issued a restraining order against the man in April, Findlen said, requiring the man to stay 100 yards from the couple and their home, jobs and vehicles. But the victim told police Oct. 13 that the man violated the order by approaching her at a grocery store.
                    But, but, but restraining orders are all you need to protect yourself, right?!? And how did he attack them without an evil gun? Aren't they the only weapon with which one can do violence?
                    I'm sooooo confused!
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                    • #11
                      nick
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 19151

                      What if the gun wasn't present? After all, we're supposed to rely on the authorities for our protection, right?
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                      • #12
                        56Chevy
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1872

                        Originally posted by nick
                        What if the gun wasn't present? After all, we're supposed to rely on the authorities for our protection, right?
                        Doesn't a restraining order create a magical force field?

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                        • #13
                          nick
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 19151

                          Originally posted by 56Chevy
                          Doesn't a restraining order create a magical force field?
                          What is this, New Physics? As if New Math wasn't bad enough...

                          My brother has a restraining order against his wife (long story that doesn't need to be told here). His wife flaunts it all the time, and gets away with it. She just comes to court and cries a bit, and all's good.
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                          • #14
                            Gator Monroe
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 6422

                            This got me thinkin (I could build a mammoth Night stand that my Riot Shotgun fits in the top drawer...

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                            • #15
                              Chris M
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 1771

                              Originally posted by emc002
                              But, but, but restraining orders are all you need to protect yourself, right?!?
                              No. There's also 911. They should have asked the machete-wielder to hold off on his attack while they call 911 and sit around and discuss the situation while waiting for the police to arrive.

                              A loaded gun on the nightstand could be mistaken for a telephone, and when the phone rings at 3:00am, you could end up putting the gun to your head, thinking you're answering the phone! Or you might mistake the trigger for your snooze button!

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