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A 12 gauge or even a 20 can do it all from slugs to bird shot you can't go wrong with a shotgun. From home defense to hunting and having fun on the range you can find them used all day from $100-300, so you can have multiples. Practice ammo is cheap. On break actions you can get those caliber inserts and on mossbergs you can turn them into muzzle loaders. When people panicked and there was no ammo to be found I came across plenty of shot shells and components. The 12 gauge is still king as far as practicality, so how come I don't see people picking up shotguns as often anymore?
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They don't enjoy getting plastered by the recoil; typical 12g has 30lbs of recoil energy. A 30-06 has 20, and that is about the practical limit for most peeps to shoot and not develop a major league flinch....I put 8 rounds thru my neighbors 12g over under; next morning I'm standing in front of the bathroom mirror after my shower and have a green, black, blue, purple, bruise on my shoulder the size of a dollar bill. No thanks... -
I've fired 40 rounds from my 45-70 and 55 from my 12 gauge Remington and I honestly thought the 45-70 hurt more, but the shotgun can also be had in a 20 gauge, which is far more pleasant to shoot and can do most of what the 12 gauge can.Comment
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In the last 4 or 5 months I have seen a marked increase in the number of shotguns being sold over the AR. AK is still popular, but the short shotguns are doing great.You, you, and you: Panic. The rest of you, come with me.
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If you learn how to properly hold/shoulder the shotgun, 12g has very little recoil.
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Last edited by Oceanbob; 03-05-2015, 3:10 PM.May the Bridges I burn light the way.
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Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).Comment
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Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.
Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).Comment
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According to crazy Uncle Joe, a shotgun is all you need. I think that since there's currently no real scare of it being banned, people aren't rushing out to get one. I know of a lot of first time AR and AK buyers who are getting them now because they're afraid they won't be able to in the near future. However, most of them have at least 1 shotgun already. I do agree the versatility is second to none.Originally posted by MezcalfudComment
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Took my vepr12 out last weekend, shot about 50 rounds of slugs but mostly shot my ar pistol to sight in red dot. I bring a variety of firearms when I hit the range so not a issue with me I like to be familiar with everything, it's the ammo budget that gets hit hard at the end of the day. I tend to see a lot of people shooting off the bench not a lot of people stand and shoot anymore so shotguns being bench fired tends to look funny I guess. I see more shotguns when shooting clays but not target practicing.Comment
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Love a 12ga and it has it's place, just like any other gun.Custom made Tail Gunner Trailer Hitch for sale.
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Hmmm.... My primary shotgun is a Saiga 12, so I'm in both the 12ga and AK camp....Comment
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This would be one of the problems with shotguns, and it's not the fault of the shotgun... it's operator error, kind of.
If the shotgun does not fit you, it will beat you up.
If you do not mount the shotgun correctly, it will beat you up.
I saw a guy at the range the other day put a 5 round box of slugs through his KSG and he was done. Of course he was also shooting it off of a sandbag on the bench for some insane reason and as a result he probably looked like someone repeatedly hit him in the shoulder with a baseball bat the next day. klewan, you're right about the recoil, but you're missing the point that you can fudge it with a 5.56 rifle, and can even get away with being sloppy with a .30-06, you can't halfass a 12g. Hell, even a bad fit and mount with an autoloader can leave you feeling like your shoulder was just used as a punching bag.
What I see a lot of, is people buying a random shotgun, not putting in any consideration to fit(or understanding what that means) or not knowing how to mount the thing properly, and beating themselves up with it. Yet you have plenty of other people who can shoot 200 rounds out of an O/U in a single day and not have a mark on their shoulder. The difference? Fit and mount. But this is a correctable issue, you just need someone to explain it(and be willing to pay attention). There are norcal and socal skeet clinics posted in the shotgun forum, go to one if you get the chance.
The other issue I've observed with shotguns, is people getting bored with them. There are a lot of people who go buy a shotgun, bolt some crap to it, take it to the local indoor range, turn some paper targets into confetti and that's the end of it. They might try to take it out to shoot some clay sports, but unfortunately some fields will tell them "No, your barrel is too short" because they have a 20" barrel instead of a 28", and since some replacement barrels cost almost as much as the gun... it goes back into the closet. A year or two later they see some new crap they can bolt onto it, shred some paper targets, and then put it back in the closet. Even if the local fields do allow them to use their shorter barreled shotguns, some people simply have no idea where to start and with nothing obvious they just shrug and go back to shooting something else.Comment
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Because of the exposure in magazines, movies, and video games, semi-auto rifles are by far the most sought after firearms right now.
That being said, I still think everyone should own a nice shotgun."Far and away the best prize life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." - Theodore Roosevelt
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