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  • TheAce
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 64

    Clear something up about PPT please

    So I'm in the midst of purchasing a handgun through PPT. Up until this point I've only bought guns through shops. My question is what should I bring besides the cash, my ID, second proof of residency, and safety certificate?

    Should I pay in full? I'm not worried about not passing the background check but what happens if a mistake is made or something?

    Thanks in advance.
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    UberPatriot
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 2069

    the money side of the deal is between you and the seller.
    I would want full price before I left the shop.

    Make sure you inspect the gun to your satisfaction before starting the process.
    Last edited by UberPatriot; 03-02-2015, 7:18 PM.
    Location: Olympic Peninsula Washington

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    • #3
      CockedAndLocked
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 538

      Yeah if you are sure you'll clear DROS then pay the seller in full and you're all set.
      What do you mean by "mistake"? The FFL should check and double check all the info when its entered so there shouldn't be any clerical errors if that's what you mean?
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      • #4
        Ewab0y
        Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 160

        Huh? Seems like you are familiar with the gun purchase process since you stated that you already buy guns through gun shops. Why would you think you wouldn't pass a background check?

        As far as paying in full, isn't that a deal you should have discussed with the seller?

        TROLL

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        • #5
          ke6guj
          Moderator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2003
          • 23725

          Originally posted by TheAce
          So I'm in the midst of purchasing a handgun through PPT. Up until this point I've only bought guns through shops. My question is what should I bring besides the cash, my ID, second proof of residency, and safety certificate?

          Should I pay in full? I'm not worried about not passing the background check but what happens if a mistake is made or something?

          Thanks in advance.
          if you are buying my firearm, yup, you are paying in full before I hand over the firearm to the FFL to do the PPT. that will usually be the case for most sellers.
          Jack



          Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

          No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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          • #6
            TheAce
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2014
            • 64

            I get that but what happens if it goes back to seller? Like I said I'm not worried about the DROS I've passed it plenty of times before but I'd like to know just in case of a worst case scenario.

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            • #7
              5ZS
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 1047

              If the buyer can not pass dros it goes back to the seller and the seller will have to go back and dros it back.

              Then the buyer (that can not pass dros) prays that the seller is nice enough to return funds. How much returned is again between buyer & seller.

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              • #8
                TheAce
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 64

                Originally posted by Ewab0y
                Why would you think you wouldn't pass a background check?

                I'm worried about a clerical error more than anything. I've had that hassle before on government forms and trust me it's a huge headache, even when it was determined to have happened on their side.

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                • #9
                  Troy35
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 56

                  Originally posted by TheAce
                  I get that but what happens if it goes back to seller? Like I said I'm not worried about the DROS I've passed it plenty of times before but I'd like to know just in case of a worst case scenario.
                  What do you mean "goes back to the seller?" Do you mean what happens if you fail to complete the DROS? Would it would then still be registered in the sellers name as it could not be registered in your name, yes, I believe it would. You said that is not your concern though, but if it is...

                  You could attempt to draft a contract that states that the seller must take the gun back from you in exchange for the full selling price if you fail DROS, or try to delay payment until after the DROS is completed. I would not agree to either of these though if I was selling a firearm. You and the seller are the only two parties that can make this choice though.

                  If you've never had a problem passing DROS in the recent past I think you are overthinking this. It happens hundreds of times a week in this state.

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                  • #10
                    TheAce
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 64

                    Ok so it's up to seller to decide how much if any goes back. Thanks guys I know I'm sounding paranoid about it but it puts me at ease to confirm these things beforehand.

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                    • #11
                      Troy35
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 56

                      Originally posted by TheAce
                      I'm worried about a clerical error more than anything. I've had that hassle before on government forms and trust me it's a huge headache, even when it was determined to have happened on their side.
                      Sorry I was too slow on the reply. It's a comfort level thing for you, I totally get that. Maybe you should only buy new from ffl's in a brick and mortar store, unless it's an off roster gun. There would be less stress maybe for you in that case.

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                      • #12
                        TheAce
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 64

                        Originally posted by Troy35
                        Sorry I was too slow on the reply. It's a comfort level thing for you, I totally get that. Maybe you should only buy new from ffl's in a brick and mortar store, unless it's an off roster gun. There would be less stress maybe for you in that case.
                        Nah I'm good now I just don't like not knowing. Now that I'm out of the dark it won't bug me. Once again thanks to everyone.

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                        • #13
                          Sousuke
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 3932

                          Originally posted by TheAce
                          Nah I'm good now I just don't like not knowing. Now that I'm out of the dark it won't bug me. Once again thanks to everyone.
                          There was another thread where the person failed the background check and the seller was asking if he should refund the money....so do ask your seller in writing if you have any worries. In the case I mentioned, the poster charged a restocking fee (which in my opinion wasn't very upstanding because he never disclosed that he would charge a fee to the buyer).
                          Everyone on Calguns keeps talking about TDS. I never knew we had so many fish keepers!

                          The TDS on my 10gallon tanks 110ppm
                          The TDS on my 29 gallon tank is 150ppm (due to substrate)

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                          • #14
                            Old Iron
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 24

                            That's why buying from an established business makes sense most of the time. You never know if that used gun from a private seller is stolen or otherwise legally owned by them until after the DROS process is put into action. You take your chances.....

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                            • #15
                              jeffyhog
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 2759

                              If there is ONE error on the DROS paperwork, the dealer can correct it before you pick up. I believe if there is more than one mistake, it will have to be re-DROSed.
                              I've had a couple dealings where the FFL made a mistake and had to correct it. The last time was on the serial number, but he was able to correct it.
                              Very important to verify all the information on the DROS form before leaving the dealer at the time of purchase.

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