School Zero Tolerance Policy - Not Here!

[Jed Meyers]

Twenty million Russians died in WWII; it's a lot more than a war movie to them.

Not USSR nor the Red Army consisted exclusively of Russians.

[major burnout]

Really? You truly think so?

You need to learn about Russia, then come back and tell us all how awesome Russia is.

Well the few Russians I have met are awesome people. The land is beautiful from what I have seen. The socialist government sucks a fat one, but all socialist governments suck.

My Russia is awesome comment was directed at the OP, who hopefully wasnt serious with his thread title.

[major burnout]

Not USSR nor the Red Army consisted exclusively of Russians.

Did the German national socialists (NAZIs) and the russian socialists work together during the first few years of WW2? Why all the starved Ukrainian people?

[greensoup]

Did the German national socialists (NAZIs) and the russian socialists work together during the first few years of WW2? Why all the starved Ukrainian people?

I believe the Ukrainians ended up fighting for the Germans. Although my memory in that area is fuzzy.

I always though it was rather generous to call Stalinist government socialist. It was like a dictatorship with 100% of the population in indentured servitude.

[Mitch]

Not USSR nor the Red Army consisted exclusively of Russians.

Understood.

[major burnout]

I believe the Ukrainians ended up fighting for the Germans. Although my memory in that area is fuzzy.

I always though it was rather generous to call Stalinist government socialist. It was like a dictatorship with 100% of the population in indentured servitude.

Progressives gonna progress. Forward comrades!

[thetaxman]

Grew up in the UK where my school had its own range - and still does to this day.

http://www.deanclose.org.uk/Dean-Close-sharpshooters-get-promoted

The kids in this team are 13 or below and are limited to 22LR's. After 13, they'll learn how to field strip an SA80/L85A2, get basic weapon handling instruction and a fair bit of live-fire range time.

[major burnout]

I took an ROP police science class in HS. At the end of the year we went to the range. Fired .38s and shotguns. The L.E.O. brought a bunch of firearms from the evidence locker. There was a Thompson an Uzi a FA browning high power and some other stuff. I got to stay after class(best detention ever) and shoot the Uzi and the FA browning high power. The uzi had 0 recoil and the high power had significant muzzle climb during full auto fire. The L.E.O also put his swat vest, gas mask and helmut with balistic sheild on me and had me run 75M and then take a shot at a hostage situation target with his back up pistol(G36). I missed, but parted the bad guys hair. This was way back in '97. I miss the good ol days.

[dvs762]

No, not even close. Private ownership is pretty much limited to shotguns and bolt action hunting type rifles. I did read where the privileged class can now carry a handgun for self defense though, but not just anybody, you would have to be connected, much like here in most counties in California. This was just passed into law a few months ago.

In Russia you have to own a shotgun/smoothbore for 5 years before you can get a rifled barrel weapon. You need a simple psych exam and a chat with local PD. Handguns are heavily restricted as is carrying knives. You need a cold weapon permit for a knife to be carried. Once you have your rifle there are tons of places to shoot including your own property depending on where you live. The Russian government even gives semi auto Ak-103 pattern rifles and Tigers to some of the tribes that live in the extreme north for hunting in their traditional ways. I have seen hunters there use Tigers on boats. I saw a shooting club where they would have Russian military come and bring FA weapons and let the locals shoot them. They also have a sort of civilian militia that has rifles. I saw armored car companies operate with Saiga 12 gauge shotguns and even 9x18 SMG's and Makarovs. In electronic stores and lots of supermarkets security guards have makarov pistols. So its not as restrictive as people think. Even during Soviet times the people could own firearms.