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  • TrappedinCalifornia
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2018
    • 8235

    A Long-Term Care Facility Instituted COVID Restrictions, Again, Due To Positive Tests

    I was asked to sit in on a patient status update for someone I know today. (I was added as an 'authorized' health power of attorney specifically because their kid can't always be available at the long-term care facility's 'convenience' for such meetings and the individual isn't competent to see to her own affairs. Fortunately, I don't have to act as an alternate all that often.)

    Evidently, 5 out of 120 patients 'tested positive,' though all are asymptomatic. However, masks are now required... well... let's just say they are 'this close' to an actual lockdown. Yet, as it turns out, the 5 who 'tested positive' were considered to be at such 'low levels' that many of the actual nurses, are questioning why such measures are being implemented. It would seem that the 'bureaucrats' running the place have demanded it, even though the actual workers aren't all that concerned.

    When I entered, I noted that some 'communication specialists' (television and/or phones) were coming and going without masking up. Thus, I didn't put on a mask and wandered around the whole place. I didn't point out I am 'unvaccinated' (though, it is a distinct possibility I had a full blown case of COVID in January of 2020, before testing was available). Why? Because one of the bureaucrats actually removed her mask, as did the patient I was there to represent so that the patient could lip read to understand what was being said. (She refuses to wear hearing aids, but that's a whole other story.)

    Nothing was said about my being unmasked.

    I know the patient had a likely case of COVID early on during the Pandemic. Though she never saw a doctor or was tested, her symptoms and the longevity were consistent, as was the fact that the rest of the household also contracted the same 'bug' at, roughly, the same time. I also know she was vaccinated when first placed in the facility and boosted, once; though, from what I understand, her son has refused authorization for more boosters. Finally, tonight, I was told that she had 'tested positive,' twice, in the last couple of years, but remained completely asymptomatic both times.

    The gal I was there for expressed some concern that I might get sick from not wearing a mask. I reminded her that I was out in the public-at-large where the vast majority don't wear masks. To help ease her concern, I pointed out that if those who 'tested positive' were at such low levels, it might actually be good to be 'exposed' so your body has a chance to do what comes naturally; i.e., react to the 'exposure' so that your natural immune system is geared up to fend off an higher level of exposure.

    Let's just say it was almost comical watching the disparity between the workers trying to comply, yet trying to do their jobs, the patients and their reaction, along with the bureaucrats and their reaction. Will I end up sick? Who knows... But, I'm not gonna sweat it. (Sorry. No dibs. My firearms are accounted for in my will.) It's just... interesting... the way places like this still react to the possibility that someone 'tests positive.'

    BTW: The lady I was there for is fine, didn't test positive, but is a bit flustered and frustrated with the 'precautions' being put back in place.

    Another BTW: I was never exposed to ANY of the patients, other than the lady I was there as the representative of and she wasn't one of those who tested positive. About the only 'surfaces' I touched were the door handles, a pen to initial the meeting notes, a table top, and a chair seat.
    Last edited by TrappedinCalifornia; 08-01-2024, 8:38 PM.
  • #2
    bigbossman
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2012
    • 10823

    Apparently irrational hysteria is alive and well.
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    • #3
      sigstroker
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      • Jan 2009
      • 19054

      BTW, the "surfaces" thing was debunked some time ago, unless you lick something that just got sneezed on.

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      • #4
        TrappedinCalifornia
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2018
        • 8235

        Originally posted by sigstroker
        BTW, the "surfaces" thing was debunked some time ago, unless you lick something that just got sneezed on.
        Yeah. But, I touched them and that potentially exposed residents to the COVID I didn't necessarily have don't ya see.

        Not to put too fine a point on this whole discussion, but, they evidently had someone walk in the other day claiming to have or have had COVID and they immediately reverted back to masks, along with calling the families of patients to warn them of the exposure.

        Insofar as 'debunking' COVID on surfaces, it hasn't been so much 'debunked' as the concern has been 'downgraded' to being somewhat akin to the proper care being taken as though someone who had a cold or flu having been in contact with the surfaces. Well, maybe just a touch stronger than that.

        ETA: I had a quote, with hyperlink, to a piece from the Mayo Clinic back in April talking about the need to disinfect surfaces where the COVID carrier or exposed had come into contact, but the system is currently having problems with hyperlinks and/or copy/paste, giving a 403 error and adamantly refusing to publish the post with them included. Sooo...

        Let's try this one from the CDC back in June... Safety Precautions: Cleaning and Disinfecting for COVID-19

        ...Carefully select cleaners and disinfectants and application methods for use in facilities, businesses, and public indoor spaces to ensure that you can clean and disinfect safely and effectively.

        In most situations, cleaning surfaces (using soap or detergent) is enough to reduce SAR-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. Clean surfaces before disinfecting.

        Disinfection (using a product or process designed to inactivate SARS-CoV-2) is recommended in indoor community settings where there has been a suspected or confirmed case of COVID-19 within the last 24 hours, when the presence of infectious virus is more likely.

        When disinfecting, choose the safest method that is also effective. For most situations, using traditional disinfectant methods, such as liquids, wipes, or disinfectant spray bottles, is sufficient to reduce virus exposure. Be sure to use products safely and according to label instructions and use products that are on EPA's List N: Disinfectants for Coronavirus (COVID-19)...
        ​
        Last edited by TrappedinCalifornia; 08-30-2024, 8:17 PM.

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        • #5
          XDJYo
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          • Apr 2012
          • 6145

          A couple caught the C-19 last month. Minor symptoms. Wife and I had to go pick them up at the hospital and took them back home (they were there for something else). Despite being in the same hospital room and car with them, neither of us caught it. I talked with a few others who caught it recently with very minor symptoms.

          On the matter of Care Facilites, the place my mom is at went on lockdown at the end of July for about a week or so. Wasn't C-19, but Norovirus! Blech!!! This is where the nasties are spread by people who don't wash their hands after they do the poopies. Just gross.
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          • #6
            SanDiego619
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2013
            • 10689

            Treat it like what it is - the sniffles.

            No masks, no jabs, no precautions, live life as you normally would. I don't know if I had covid, never been tested (why would I?)

            But I have had a case or two of the sniffles, I still went to work, the store, everywhere, just like normal. No mask or other stupidity. I never bought into the hysteria.
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            • #7
              TrappedinCalifornia
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2018
              • 8235

              And... The same facility is under COVID protocols, again.

              While inhabitants are allowed to go around unmasked, staff and visitors are required to don one while passing through hallways. The doors at each end of the hallways are closed, unless they aren't (ahem). The activity room is shut down and no community dining is allowed. From what I could gather, staff wear masks 100% of the time; but, as we saw during the height of the pandemic, not always over their noses and/or mouths. So far, they haven't been pushing boosters and the one gal I know has consistently refused them anyway.

              They aren't talking about the 'why,' at least not in my presence. I have to assume someone 'tested' positive and I further assume it was with something equivalent to an home test kit that was used. The inhabitants haven't heard anything and haven't seen body bags being wheeled out. Thus, it's a 'panic' without the foregoing panicky attributes. Just a pain in the posterior for residents and visitors so the institution can claim 'proper protocols' were observed... ahem.

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              • #8
                Big Chudungus
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2021
                • 2038

                I was working inside a Long Term Care during Covid, for about a week. They Security checking all the resident's guests for Vaxx Cards. If no card, no see grandma. Of course all this checking, conversations, people w/out cards waiting for 45mins for grandma to be brought down happened INSIDE the lobby. Total Humiliation Ritual Theater. Felt like I was trapped in a Twilight Zone episode. Everything seemed like the year 2021 but somehow I was the only person that understood Science and germs and stuff, and everyone else including the many well credentialed Medical Staff were superstitious and often hysterical primitives.
                Anyways, I did get a crappy little head cold, so I had to get off that job, thank god. What a depressing place, and this was what seemed crazy expensive, something like over $10,000 month just for starters.

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                • #9
                  TrappedinCalifornia
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 8235

                  I visited a patient in the facility today as a 'follow-up' to an appointment out-of-facility they had yesterday.

                  Visitors are still required to wear masks in the hallways and staff is expected to wear them 'at all times' (evidently, with varying levels of due caution... ahem). Patients aren't and I only saw one doing so. The sense I get is that patients aren't allowed to leave their own hallways and only the one hallway has closed entry and exit doors, though all the room doors on that hallway were open. Still no community dining and the activity room is still verboten.

                  The response I got from the mask-wearing receptionist is that it 'shouldn't be too much longer' before restrictions are limited. However, according to the patient I was visiting, they should have been lifted days ago, yet weren't. So... I get the sense that 'staff' isn't exactly 'pleased' with the restrictions and are impatient to be done with them. Then again, my somewhat 'educated' perspective is that most of the staff isn't all that experienced and even those who are, only work part-time.

                  Still no rumors or otherwise of patients being taken to the hospital or removed in body bags; the latter being something I've seen a couple of times at this facility in the past even though I wasn't supposed to.

                  Oh well. It is what it is until it isn't... I guess... and so long as no one is being 'wheeled out'... 🤞

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                  • #10
                    sigfan91
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 8741

                    You know how to get people to stop testing positive for the wuhan virus? STOP TESTING!!!

                    “Hey doc, it hurts when I do this.”

                    ”Well, don’t do that.”

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