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  • The Duke
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 555

    Vax Messed Me Up

    I unwillingly took the Vax in 2021. My granddaughter's school wanted all caregivers to provide proof of vaccination. I drop her off and pick her up a few times a month, and since I wasn't vaxxed, they were going to ban me from campus. No plays, no family events. My daughter started telling me she faced austriacization from the other parents because of the unvaxxed grandpa. My wife, who supported my concerns about this new and untested medication, decided to bend to the will of my daughter and get vaccinated. Both of them applied pressure to me. When the real estate brokerage I work through also began pressuring me, I went out and got the J&J vax, still not wanting the mRNA.

    After getting vaccinated, I noticed my heartrate would hit 220bmp when I did my usual 30 minutes on the elyptical, at a moderate, non-sweating pace which used to get my pulse only up to about 130-140bmp. My wife and daughter said that was me getting myself worked up over my MAGA, anti-vax feelings. Part of me believed they were right. I was so bent out of shape at being forced to do this... by my government. By my employer. By my family. My blood pressure, which was always in the high 120's spiked to 150. Again, my family told it was all psychological and that I was a nut.

    I DID NOT want to go back to my doctor. He refused to have a pros and cons discussion with me about the vaccines prior to my shots. I said "Im retired doc. I don't mind staying isolated, keeping my circle small. Would it be prudent if I just waited". But he refused to entertain this. "You could die" was all he would say.

    So now, 2 years later, I've been working out hard...daily. I wanted my BP and my heart rate DOWN. Naturally. I didn't want to hop on to meds for the first time in my life. Daily treadmill work...sweating it out. Then weights. Then stretching. I got into great shape and my pulse went back down to about 150 or so at a moderate workout.

    But then a couple of weeks ago, I got sick...really the first big cold/flu I've had in years. I was laid up for a couple of weeks, and am only now trying to get back onto my elyptical machine. And guess what. My pulse with a leisurely workout is back up to 180-190 beats per minute. Again, my wife is telling me it's because I'm in my late 50s and have a belly and that's just aging. But I can't kick that I was healthy all these years, got the shot, and immediatly had a pulse and blood pressure problem.

    My daughter got an irregular heartbeat immediately after her Moderna booster. She switched back to an anti-vax belief, and has refused to vaccinate my two granddaughters. They've had covid at least twice, and the symotoms were more mild than their seasonal allergies. I can't believe I caved on my principles and did this to myself.
  • #2
    nstoolman1
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 279

    Look into Homeopathic methods of detoxing. There are some out there that have shown to negate the effects. Colloidial Silver is one. Do your own research. I am not a doctor but I watched House for a few years.

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    • #3
      DaveInOroValley
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jan 2010
      • 8967

      Many people felt that pressure from every angle but to me family insisting in the worst of all pressures. I thank God that both myself and my wife took a wait and see stance. Best decision we?ve ever made health wise.
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      "Don't bother me with facts, Son. I've already made up my mind." -Foghorn Leghorn

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      • #4
        XDJYo
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2012
        • 6531

        Damn shame bro. I wish we all could wind the hands of time back. Wishing you the best possible outcome for you.

        My wife and I are both still pure bloods. We fought long and hard against a lot of friends and relatives. All of the same old tired arguments. One of the things I was eternally grateful for was Calguns. It gave me perspective if nothing else.

        I would often say that we have time. Time was on our side to see how things would pan out. Around June of 2020, I noticed that my friends and the broader public weren?t falling down dead in the streets from this thing. My experience was totally different from what the news was saying. Was I really a right wing extremist and a conspiracy hoaxist? Damn, I don?t think I went crazy.

        When the vax hit, we almost dove in when it first became available for us which was around March 2021. But we decided to postpone it because we had a vacation planned and didn?t want it I have any side effects like cold symptoms. (Pfft?little did we know!). When we let some more time pass, I knew there were things that weren?t adding up.

        The more we learned, the more we knew we made the right choice. We almost caved in too. Almost.

        There?s a new YT video out by John Stossel about the government overreach.

        Bastards.


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        • #5
          Beelzy
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2008
          • 9224

          That sucks hard, I remember your ealrier posting about it. Positive Energy sent your way.
          "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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          • #6
            Tere_Hanges
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2013
            • 6268

            I dunno, you'd probably need the best researchers to conduct a bunch of tests to try and figure out if any of your symptoms are jab related and even then, I bet any findings would be inconclusive.

            I had 3 jabs of the Pfizer. I chose Pfizer because I have family and friends in BioPharm industry and Pfizer has the best reputation from all the tales I've heard. Anyway, I work out regularly. Last year I went in to have a minor surgery and the anesthesiologist came in to listen to my heart which is standard procedure before putting someone under. After listening to my heart, he asked me if I work out. I said yes. He said, I can tell. If there's anyone that I would think would be able to notice anything odd about my heart it would be the anesthesiologist. But I've also had PCPs listen to my heart during physicals and everything was normal.

            I think your family is right. And if you had RSV or COVID when you were sick, it may just take you a little while to recover fully. I had COVID for the first time back in January and it took me about 2 weeks to recover. There was one day where I couldn't move and had a fever of 103. I've never been that weak before. But it was only one day where I felt like that.

            You didn't say how much you weigh, i.e. if you are overweight. But if you are honest about your weight, that is probably what is causing the high blood pressure. If diet and excercise isn't helping you lose weight, ask a Dr, and maybe get a trainer to help you.
            Last edited by Tere_Hanges; 03-19-2024, 8:29 PM.
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            • #7
              Snagglepuss
              Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 407

              I think you get the heart thing after having covid too, not just the vax. That?s just my hypothesis as I have experienced almost exactly what you described after having covid a year ago. My heart rate would go wild with minimal exercise, and I got high blood pressure for the first time in my life. I worked hard for a year and got in better shape, and brought my heart rate and blood pressure under control until I got covid again this year and had to kind of start over again.

              When I first experienced the heart issues, I also started dealing with immense, crippling anxiety -something I?ve never had in my life. After getting Covid again, I felt the anxiety come back too.

              Luckily, after having worked hard and learned to recognize the signs of my increased heart rate and anxiety, neither have ever been as bad as when I first experienced them, but they?re still not my favorite feelings.

              What I mean to communicate by this is maybe we all have to just come to terms with these issues, as they are in some way our new reality. It takes a lot of stress away to believe we?re in this for the long haul, and to just keep trucking the best we can.

              I pray that God takes away all your problems and your health only gets better from now on.

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              • #8
                SanDiego619
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2013
                • 12084

                I remember when you posted that you were getting the jab because of your daughter's school... I was hoping you wouldn't go through with it. I hope you get back to normal soon.
                Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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                • #9
                  ibanezfoo
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 11796

                  I'm not suggesting anyone try this but just throwing it out there as it came from a different conversation I was having about weird alcohol shots. Snake venom. Apparently drinking it causes coagulopathy. Perhaps an antidote to the rona vax blood issues?
                  vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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                  • #10
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                    • Jan 2006
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                    • #11
                      2shotjoe
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 26504

                      keep your cardio in "zone 2", search the term. the ceiling of it for you in 180-your age. if you're 55, its 125. 115-125 would be your range for cardio. same with lifting weights, zone 1 to 2. full rest between sets, at least 30 seconds to 5 minutes depending on the lift. i do this and i have a very healthy blood pressure and resting heart rate. i monitor my heart rate with my watch.
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                      • #12
                        LBDamned
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 19040

                        Moral of the story is; use God-given free will... trust your intuition and instinct, regardless what the 'pressures from others' are.

                        Unless you don't trust yourself.

                        This applies to everything in life.

                        We don't learn it early on... but life experience and spiritual awareness makes it very apparent and undeniable. It takes willful denial to ignore it.
                        "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                        • #13
                          2shotjoe
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                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 26504

                          For the Duke, zone 2 cardio examples.

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                          Originally posted by Kestryll
                          ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
                          Originally posted by Libertarian777
                          ...Don't pick either side....

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                          • #14
                            twinfin
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1187

                            It breaks my heart to read your story Mr. Duke as it's the story of so many. Now, more than ever, we have to be honest about how deep the evil in this world runs. My wife and I will pray for you.

                            Looking forward, we all have to do a better job at cultivating sources of accurate information. Do not consume any news from television. We all have to speak up, an say the truth to those around us. Transgender, "fair" elections, DEI, white privilege, global warming and the list goes on of topics that that are being used to divide and destroy this once brave, independent and bold Nation.

                            Resolve this day, to stop going along with what is known to be untrue, no matter what. Prepare to be attacked but stand strong, there's no other choice.

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                            • #15
                              LBDamned
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 19040

                              Originally posted by twinfin
                              It breaks my heart to read your story Mr. Duke as it's the story of so many. Now, more than ever, we have to be honest about how deep the evil in this world runs. My wife and I will pray for you.

                              Looking forward, we all have to do a better job at cultivating sources of accurate information. Do not consume any news from television. We all have to speak up, an say the truth to those around us. Transgender, "fair" elections, DEI, white privilege, global warming and the list goes on of topics that that are being used to divide and destroy this once brave, independent and bold Nation.

                              Resolve this day, to stop going along with what is known to be untrue, no matter what. Prepare to be attacked but stand strong, there's no other choice.
                              I had similar discussion a year or so ago with a female I met... she understand the issues, but her position was indifferent - stating 'what can anyone do about it'... I told her; at the very least, discussions need to happen.

                              When people don't speak up and speak truth (as you stated), the sinister acts become accepted. We can't become a silenced society... that's exactly what deceit wants.
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