CA is officially accepting it is scamdemic!

[Palmaris]

So, officially admitting no isolation needed de facto admitting COVID IS JUST A FLU! https://ktla.com/news/california/cal...on-guidelines/

[sigfan91]

Cool! Do Trump won 2020 next

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Actually, what was said in the linked article doesn't match the thread title. From the linked article...

..."The reason for these changes is that we are now at a different point in time with reduced impacts from COVID-19 compared to prior years due to broad immunity from vaccination and/or natural infection, and readily available treatments for infected people," a representative with the California Department of Public Health told KTLA in an email statement.

"Most of our policies and priorities for intervention are now focused on protecting those most at risk for serious illness. Additionally, previous isolation recommendations were implemented to reduce the spread of a virus to which the population had little immunity and had led to large numbers of hospitalizations and deaths that overwhelmed our healthcare systems during the pandemic."

Health officials still recommend that people who test positive for COVID-19 wear a mask, avoid contact with those who have a higher risk of catching severe COVID-19 and, if needed, seek medical treatment, according to the updated guidelines. COVID-19 vaccinations are also still recommended by health officials...

In other words, what is now being acknowledged is that the Draconian 'precautions' the public has been subjected to for the last several years are no longer 'necessary.'

But, they are still being recommended.

That's not a 'de facto admission' that 'COVID is just the flu.' It is, however, an acknowledgement that medical treatments are now known to have reached a point where they are accepted and, if used properly, will cause mild cases of COVID to be, effectively, no worse than a case of the flu in terms of the potential for 'pandemic.'

That's a whole lot different than 'official acceptance' or 'acknowledgement' of it being or having been a 'scamdemic.'

[Palmaris]

Actually, what was said in the linked article doesn't match the thread title. From the linked article...



In other words, what is now being acknowledged is that the Draconian 'precautions' the public has been subjected to for the last several years are no longer 'necessary.'

But, they are still being recommended.

That's not a 'de facto admission' that 'COVID is just the flu.' It is, however, an acknowledgement that medical treatments are now known to have reached a point where they are accepted and, if used properly, will cause mild cases of COVID to be, effectively, no worse than a case of the flu in terms of the potential for 'pandemic.'

That's a whole lot different than 'official acceptance' or 'acknowledgement' of it being or having been a 'scamdemic.'

They will never ever come out and officially admitted, it is their secondary action proves it. This is one of them.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

They will never ever come out and officially admitted, it is their secondary action proves it. This is one of them.

What you are doing is inferring something based on your own, personal assessment of what happened. As I have said before, there are a good deal of questionable actions and, certainly, the situation was taken advantage of. However, COVID was and is a real problem for many. Simply because the so-called 'vaccines' might have made things worse does not negate the actual virus.

Bear in mind that we are now 4 years beyond when awareness of the virus being out, in the population became public. Treatments have advanced and they are not exactly the same as with the flu. Close. But, not the same. Natural immunity has mitigated many of the effects, as has the natural evolution of the virus itself. In short, official reaction NOW is expectedly and predictably different than it was THEN. Yet, as I noted, they continue to recommend the very same precautionary methods, with the caveat of reducing the isolation time.

Believe what you wish. As I have said, several times, I do believe that the virus was 'taken advantage of' by many to push personal agendas and those agendas muddied the field considerably. Further, I think many of the machinations were nefarious and/or selfish. Yet, such belief does not alter the reality of the virus and its impact. Neither does an altered response, over 4 years after the virus found its way into public spread, indicate 'admission' of anything other than an 'acknowledgement' that things are pretty much running a 'natural' course.

Is it all fake or a scam? Doubtful. Is some of it fake or a scam? Certainly. Are we ever going to know, with certainty, which is which? Let's say I'm dubious at this point.

[Palmaris]

What you are doing is inferring something based on your own, personal assessment of what happened. As I have said before, there are a good deal of questionable actions and, certainly, the situation was taken advantage of. However, COVID was and is a real problem for many. Simply because the so-called 'vaccines' might have made things worse does not negate the actual virus.

Bear in mind that we are now 4 years beyond when awareness of the virus being out, in the population became public. Treatments have advanced and they are not exactly the same as with the flu. Close. But, not the same. Natural immunity has mitigated many of the effects, as has the natural evolution of the virus itself. In short, official reaction NOW is expectedly and predictably different than it was THEN. Yet, as I noted, they continue to recommend the very same precautionary methods, with the caveat of reducing the isolation time.

Believe what you wish. As I have said, several times, I do believe that the virus was 'taken advantage of' by many to push personal agendas and those agendas muddied the field considerably. Further, I think many of the machinations were nefarious and/or selfish. Yet, such belief does not alter the reality of the virus and its impact. Neither does an altered response, over 4 years after the virus found its way into public spread, indicate 'admission' of anything other than an 'acknowledgement' that things are pretty much running a 'natural' course.

Is it all fake or a scam? Doubtful. Is some of it fake or a scam? Certainly. Are we ever going to know, with certainty, which is which? Let's say I'm dubious at this point.

My opinion serves me much better than somebody else opinion. So, yes and I am sure my assessment is way better than yours. So far you weren?t able to convince me otherwise, but facts for past 4 years are speaking in my favor.

[Dan_Eastvale]

I absolutely do believe that if there had been absolutely NO media coverage of COVID, many would not have known there was anything other than maybe a different kind of Flu going around.

Majority wouldn't have even blinked an eye or noticed anything.

Blue and red states absolutely did react with a HUGE overabundance of caution which caused SIGNIFICANT damage.

[MajorSideburns]

" due to broad immunity from vaccination and/or natural infection"
Interesting they acknowledge this exists now...what happened to "trusting the science" of novel vaccines? They sound like dangerous anti-vaxers to me...

[Palmaris]

" due to broad immunity from vaccination and/or natural infection"
Interesting they acknowledge this exists now...what happened to "trusting the science" of novel vaccines? They sound like dangerous anti-vaxers to me...

They already made a buck or two, now they admit everything they denied earlier.
My wife just had rona-two days very light sore throat and nothing else. I had no symptoms so I even do not know if I had it. SCAMDEMIC!

[TrappedinCalifornia]

They already made a buck or two, now they admit everything they denied earlier.
My wife just had rona-two days very light sore throat and nothing else. I had no symptoms so I even do not know if I had it. SCAMDEMIC!

As I said, believe what you wish. But, what you believe doesn't mean the Government is acknowledging it was a 'scamdemic.'

I know one person who died from COVID. Did he have comorbidities? Technically, yes. But, he was relatively healthy.

I have family who have had it and/or tested positive for it. At worst, myself and a couple of them were sicker than dogs for the better part of two weeks; but, knock on wood, none of us have even had the flu since. (We just can't prove it was COVID since we were never tested.) At best, despite the positive tests, some remained asymptomatic. (Fortunately in the one case as even a case of the flu could kill him given his physical condition and the medications he depends on.)

Such has been the case all along. The results of infection greatly depend on the individual and not necessarily whether they were previously infected or had the so-called 'vaccine.' As I have noted, COVID is a relative of the same virus which causes the flu, but the effects were, initially, more exaggerated in that no 'natural immunity' actually existed.

Now? Most people have been exposed or have had a case of it, ranging from asymptomatic to severe. As a result, the natural course of things is that we all should have a greater resistance to it. The so-called 'vaccines' were simply 'icing on the cake,' or so the claims went. I've placed my bets on natural immunity; but, in certain circumstances, I don't argue if someone wants the (supposed) additional security of being 'vaccinated.'

But, as I've maintained all along, it should be the choice of the individual, not a 'mandate' by Government. This is where things were taken advantage of and many of the things lumped under 'scamdemic' come into play. Don't believe that? Think it was ALL a grand, Government conspiracy? Fine. You have a right to think what you want.

However, that does not mean the Government or those who took advantage are 'admitting' anything, particularly not officially. Those who are, do so based on what they believed; i.e., that 'intuition' has its limitations and actual Science takes time. Yes. Actual Science. As I have repeatedly posted, there are those which practice actual Science which have long held that, past a certain, initial point, the actions taken were, largely, inappropriate. But, once again, that is where the 'taking advantage' came into play.

It's not my job to 'convince you' that you are 'wrong.' What I am attempting to show is that simply because you believe doesn't mean anyone who doesn't believe as you do is 'wrong' or has been sold a bill of goods. We're unlikely to KNOW, anytime in the foreseeable future, what the actual truth was. Well, at least not beyond personal belief and actual Science purports not to deal in beliefs.

In point of fact, it could be said that 'personal beliefs' is what spawned the things which were nefarious and inappropriate; i.e., the 'scam' portion. The misguided 'science.' The mix-mashed messaging. The so-called 'vaccines.' Et al. If you believe your 'assessment' is that ALL of it, every legitimate scientist and medical professional was in on it, that it was all a 'plot,' is better than mine, so be it. Just be aware that your 'personal experience' is limited and does not necessarily indicate what it was or the effects it had on others.

[sigfan91]

They already made a buck or two, now they admit everything they denied earlier.
My wife just had rona-two days very light sore throat and nothing else. I had no symptoms so I even do not know if I had it. SCAMDEMIC!

You know, if she didn?t test, she wouldn?t have had wuhan virus

[Rottentofu]

I absolutely do believe that if there had been absolutely NO media coverage of COVID, many would not have known there was anything other than maybe a different kind of Flu going around.

Majority wouldn't have even blinked an eye or noticed anything.

Blue and red states absolutely did react with a HUGE overabundance of caution which caused SIGNIFICANT damage.

This. This. And, THIS.

No matter which side you are on, there is now SOLID proof from various reputable international studies that masking and vaccines were ineffective. (Not to mention the HARMS done) Hundreds of thousand of people died DAILY from various diseases and causes, yet, no one batted an eye. No media coverage.

If there were no media coverage of this scamdemic, 2020-2022 would just be like every other year.

[Palmaris]

You know, if she didn?t test, she wouldn?t have had wuhan virus

I must to agree since I agree 1000000000%!

[Dave Hill]

The real problem is we are a nation of dumbed down Tv watchers that are easier to herd that sheep. Some say people do not watch much Tv,,, walk the neighborhood when it gets dark early and pretty much every occupied house has their Tv lighting up their room being brainwashed and programmed by their Tvs.