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  • #31
    pacifico
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 82

    Originally posted by ibanezfoo
    My company built those facilities and helped with the machines that make that poison. Guess how many of us took that stuff? The answer is actually greater than 1 believe it or not. As far as I know they don't have any health issues that have been shared.

    Good luck.
    Thank you.

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    • #32
      Yugo
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2011
      • 8357

      Originally posted by pacifico
      Is that directed at me?
      I guess besides stupid life choices comprehension is also an issue.

      YES it was directed at you just in case you missed it. It was also for others reading.
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      Originally posted by WAMO556
      Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

      Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

      Umm yeah!!!!!

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      • #33
        LBDamned
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 19040

        Originally posted by Yugo
        I guess besides stupid life choices comprehension is also an issue.

        YES it was directed at you just in case you missed it. It was also for others reading.
        Ouch!
        "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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        • #34
          Yugo
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2011
          • 8357

          Originally posted by LBDamned
          Ouch!
          yes its an ouch, im tired of being nice to these people. There is no getting through to them. Dont you people realize that "these people" are directly responsible for continuing this disgusting HOAX?

          The vaxxers the masks wearers the inflation deniers I can go on and on but I think you guys get the point. NO MORE NICE!
          Last edited by Yugo; 10-21-2023, 11:59 AM.
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          Originally posted by WAMO556
          Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

          Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

          Umm yeah!!!!!

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          • #35
            ACfixer
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2012
            • 6053

            Originally posted by Yugo
            yes its an ouch, im tired of being nice to these people. There is no getting through to them.
            It gets (and keeps) me in trouble constantly. Oh well.
            Buy made in USA whenever possible.

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            • #36
              LBDamned
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2011
              • 19040

              I've started caring less about those that are part of the problem - and began focusing on my path around them.

              It shouldn't have to be riddled with the problems - but it's what we have to deal with. Retrospective isn't part of my plan - other than learning from it... but when all I learned is intuition was right, then I'm using that and moving forward...

              I can't get bogged down by those making bad decisions... it's just an obstacle at this point.

              This applies to everything, not just vax.
              "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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              • #37
                Yugo
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2011
                • 8357

                sigpic

                Originally posted by WAMO556
                Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                Umm yeah!!!!!

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                • #38
                  ACfixer
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 6053

                  Originally posted by LBDamned
                  I've started caring less about those that are part of the problem - and began focusing on my path around them.

                  It shouldn't have to be riddled with the problems - but it's what we have to deal with. Retrospective isn't part of my plan - other than learning from it... but when all I learned is intuition was right, then I'm using that and moving forward...

                  I can't get bogged down by those making bad decisions... it's just an obstacle at this point.

                  This applies to everything, not just vax.
                  Yeah I guess that's my problem, I plot my path through them vs. around them and a particular female fails to see the humor in it.
                  Buy made in USA whenever possible.

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                  • #39
                    TrappedinCalifornia
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2018
                    • 9010

                    Originally posted by LBDamned
                    I've started caring less about those that are part of the problem - and began focusing on my path around them.

                    It shouldn't have to be riddled with the problems - but it's what we have to deal with. Retrospective isn't part of my plan - other than learning from it... but when all I learned is intuition was right, then I'm using that and moving forward...

                    I can't get bogged down by those making bad decisions... it's just an obstacle at this point.

                    This applies to everything, not just vax.
                    The problem is that it's become difficult and will be increasingly arduous to find usable 'work arounds.' As of the moment, it can still be done; but, as you've said, it revolves around owning your choices and living with the consequences. Unfortunately, an increasing percentage of the population and, thus, Government is looking to take those choices away from individuals, leaving us to simply live with the consequences. They feel those who will not comply can be legislated against on their way to an envisioned Utopia. In many ways, it reminds me of...

                    In other words, it's been a discourse for quite some time and goes back further than these clips (some NSFW language)...





                    It's something we were 'warned' about in ancient texts, including the Bible. In other words, it's simply another iteration of something inherent to the human condition. The trick is discerning the accurate from the inaccurate, information from misinformation and disinformation, truth from lies. Whether you rely on 'intuition' or 'intellectual analysis' or 'faith' or something else, the trick is in not allowing society to dictate what is or isn't hazardous and, thus, what the 'responses' must be.

                    Why is it a 'trick?' Because not everyone is society will be able to ascertain or discern what is or isn't an actual 'hazard,' not only to individuals, but to society itself. Such is part of what the Great Experiment has always been about; i.e., determining a 'balance point' where individuals are allowed as much freedom and liberty as possible, but always with the idea of maintaining a society. The reason it is an 'experiment' is that throughout human history, a society which emphasizes the individual over the group had always remained quite small.

                    In fact, such feeds one of the major criticisms of today's America in that the Constitution is inadequate to cover the complexity of a population grown larger than it can effectively encompass. If you look at 'population control' and many of the other things coming to pass, it's simply reflective of 'society' attempting to regain control of 'individuals.' A realigning of the 'balance point,' if you will and it's a rationale you see underlying all the debates and arguments and conspiracy theories.

                    Not getting 'bogged down by those making bad decisions' is a matter of the perspective you hold. In one way, society over the individual is a 'bad decision.' From another perspective, the individual over society is a 'bad decision.' The problem? Perspectives need to be aligned with the unique circumstance, not followed as an 'absolute.' Government is not good at nuance and neither are large, heterogeneous populations. There's simply too much diversity of thought, priorities, perspectives, values, et al.

                    It's why modern-day Libertarians and Statists are actually two sides of the same coin rather than differing coins. Old-fashioned libertarianism focused on individuals, allowing for diversity, utilizing a minimal government to retain a loosely cohesive society. Modern-day Libertarians look to use the powers of Government to enforce what they believe is good for society; i.e., force individuals to comply with their idea of what a society should be. It's a 'statist' form which is inherently contradictory to what is espoused, which is how the critics view our current Constitution in that they can't see how you can have a society which allows for individualism. But, such is why I keep referencing a 'balance point.'

                    You can't have total individualism as that would mean anarchy. You can't have total state control as that would preclude individualism. Unfortunately, in a World of extremism, you find extremists vying for control. Right now, there are too many 'statists' in positions of power, forcing adherence to what 'they' feel society should be. Such is usually spawned by a sense that too much 'anything goes' individualism has begun to run rampant, undermining the concept of a 'society,' which is defined as an ordered community.

                    That's why it is inherent to the human condition. One man's 'order' is another man's 'chaos.' It's why an homogeneous society is intolerant of heterogeneous thought. Such is reflected quite starkly in the debates about these so-called 'vaccines' (not to mention a lot of other things) and the measures taken to enforce or avoid compliance. Not everyone's vision of Heaven (a.k.a., "utopia") is the same. It's part of why I like The Twilight Zone episode "The Hunt."



                    Listening to yourself or those you trust for 'warnings' regarding what will potentially influence your Life and the resultant lifestyle you deem appropriate is important. Just understand that humans cannot create billions of individualized 'utopias.' So, a certain amount of compliance is not only expected, but necessary. Unfortunately, compliance necessitates compromise. The question thus becomes...

                    What are you willing to compromise?

                    Are you willing to compromise to the point of walking into Hell with both eyes open? Are you willing to compromise so that a balance is struck, like between Mr. Simpson and his 'old woman,' where a certain amount of difference is tolerated and accommodated. Or, do you advocate for non-compromise to a point where everyone else is forced to compromise to allow you to see your vision to fruition?

                    That's the Great Experiment and why we as individuals and as a society have so much trouble in that every ONE and every GROUP has differing risk tolerances. Working around those tolerances is what Life comes down to. Or, as we tend to view these so-called 'vaccines,' not allowing the risk tolerances of others to dictate how we live, yet still being able to operate as a tangential or intrinsic member of society can be a pain in the petoot.

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                    • #40
                      TrappedinCalifornia
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 9010

                      Last month, there were fewer things to know.

                      FDA clears new Covid boosters: 5 things to know

                      ...In June, the FDA asked drugmakers to formulate the fall boosters to target the then-dominant XBB.1.5 subvariant.

                      While that particular strain is no longer as prevalent, other strains in circulation are still closely related to XBB.1.5...

                      People who are unvaccinated can also get the booster, and do not have to complete a multidose primary series beforehand...

                      Pfizer and Moderna have said they are pricing each vaccine dose at over $100...

                      People who don't have insurance - an estimated 30 million in the U.S. - should be able to get a booster for free at community health centers. Additionally, the Biden administration is also rolling out a "bridge" program that will offer uninsured people access to free boosters at least through the end of 2024. Those who don't know or don't have access to these resources may have to pay out of pocket, she said...

                      Most healthy people will likely only need one booster until fall 2024...

                      Common side effects include headache, chills, fever, nausea and pain or swelling at the injection site, according to the CDC.

                      Pfizer and Moderna's vaccines have been associated with a small but increased risk of myocarditis, the inflammation of the heart muscle, mostly in young men. Most people make a full recovery, and early studies suggest incidences of myocarditis are highest following the second dose of a primary series.

                      Still, Pfizer and Moderna are currently running trials to track health issues - if any - in the years following a diagnosis of vaccine-associated heart problems.
                      Let's see... The boosters don't target the current, predominant strain. You no longer have to get the primary vaccine, just the booster. A booster now runs over $100, but may be free to the uninsured, despite the fact that most are required by law to have health insurance, at least in California. If you're healthy, you only need one booster a year? Side effects are expected to be the same; but, Pfizer and Moderna will be doing the tracking of health issues, tracking that is normally done prior to the release of a vaccine.

                      Why does the rather vague, non-targeted nature, the cost, the inconsistency over lack of health coverage and 'if you're healthy, get a booster, but not the vaccination,' and belated tracking of vaccine/booster related health issues not encourage me?

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                      • #41
                        Covid
                        Member
                        • Apr 2023
                        • 304

                        Don?t forget that the EUA ended and so did their UA approvals so right now the FDA in the CDC or obtaining fraudulent approvals. This is why I was looking for the original E Way, PDF document because it states that in there and I can?t find it anywhere else.

                        Bottom line your government is trying to kill you if you?re stupid enough to take this crap. Emergency ended and that?s for an original UA law it states that these drugs are no longer valid and they have to go through normal FDA approval switch take 10 to 12 years so legally there is no approved Covid drug on the market again I?m saying legally but we know our government is crooked as ****

                        Originally posted by TrappedinCalifornia
                        Last month, there were fewer things to know.

                        FDA clears new Covid boosters: 5 things to know



                        Let's see... The boosters don't target the current, predominant strain. You no longer have to get the primary vaccine, just the booster. A booster now runs over $100, but may be free to the uninsured, despite the fact that most are required by law to have health insurance, at least in California. If you're healthy, you only need one booster a year? Side effects are expected to be the same; but, Pfizer and Moderna will be doing the tracking of health issues, tracking that is normally done prior to the release of a vaccine.

                        Why does the rather vague, non-targeted nature, the cost, the inconsistency over lack of health coverage and 'if you're healthy, get a booster, but not the vaccination,' and belated tracking of vaccine/booster related health issues not encourage me?

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                        • #42
                          pacifico
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 82

                          Originally posted by Yugo
                          I guess besides stupid life choices comprehension is also an issue.

                          YES it was directed at you just in case you missed it. It was also for others reading.
                          Thanks for clarifying.

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                          • #43
                            Dave Hill
                            Member
                            • Sep 2018
                            • 201

                            I own Pfizer stock . I recommend every one get double jabs and triple the boosters remember jab a day keeps the cv 19 away.

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                            • #44
                              ibanezfoo
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 11690

                              Originally posted by Dave Hill
                              I own Pfizer stock . I recommend every one get double jabs and triple the boosters remember jab a day keeps the cv 19 away.
                              Might be worthless soon. Apparently South Korea is waking up to the Pfizer shenanigans after lots of their citizens are dying from heart issues, having miscarriages, etc. You won't hear it on US news of course, but apparently over there they are about to take a big ol stinky dump on Pfizers head. This is coming from some South Koreans I work with who they themselves are super pissed after having multiple miscarriages after being mandated to take the shot. Hopefully its true and they destroy those poison manufacturers.
                              vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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