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  • #16
    EM2
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2008
    • 5470

    Originally posted by theLBC
    they should be walked to a prison cell for telling such outrageous lies.
    the nz government made the same lies...nobody was forced...

    /unless you wanted to work or shop or travel...
    You misspelled gallows.
    Criminals go to jail/prison, Tyrants get hung.
    "duck the femocrats" Originally posted by M76

    If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim. Col. Jeff Cooper

    Originally posted by SAN compnerd
    It's the flu for crying out loud, just stop.

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    • #17
      TrappedinCalifornia
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2018
      • 9001

      It's reminiscent of Clinton and his 'Catholic Schoolgirl Defense.'

      From 1998... CLINTON'S 1ST LINE OF DEFENSE: DEFINE SEX

      ...Perhaps the president views sex the way many schoolgirls of my school days did, adhering to a time-honored tradition of making sexual distinctions that allow you to have your pleasure and honestly deny it too...

      Let me be clear. These distinctions were not unique to Catholics or to girls, and not all Catholic schoolgirls made them. They are, I'd wager, the nuances particularly popular among people, then and now, who want to do something that feels good but risky without feeling they're doing anything wrong. May I nominate Bill Clinton?...

      Time magazine and CNN recently conducted a poll to determine what acts Americans think constitute sex. The poll questions were explicit, but in this family space we'll just say that the categories corresponded roughly to first base, second base and third base, with oral sex thrown in as a detour before home plate.

      Eighty-seven percent thought oral sex was sex, 69 percent said the same for third base, 59 percent said yes for second base and 40 percent said kissing counted. In other words, there's no single standard of sexual relations. We all make distinctions...
      Technically speaking, the 'mandates,' et al. didn't force anyone to take the shots. How many of us actually remain unvaccinated and 'proudly' admit it on this site all the time?

      What it forced was a choice between taking the shot(s), complying with the mask mandates, etc. and/or not being able to work, facing fines, etc. if they wanted to live/act 'normally.' Likewise, note what was said in the linked article in the OP: "...proclaiming for all to hear that they did not force anyone to do anything detrimental these past 3.5 years." Remember, their line has always been that the shots/boosters are "safe and effective" and much of this will come down to proving nefarious intent, where finding an officially recognized, definitive study showing linkages between the vaccines/boosters and negative effects outside the 'expected side effects,' which they have continuously claimed to be 'rare' and then set against the 'greater good,' hasn't yet been accomplished. (I doubt it will be in many of our lifetimes.)

      Thus, the thread title is or will be claimed to be... misleading. They admit to mandates and recommendations. They just don't consider them to have been dangerous or detrimental. It's one of those 'differences without a distinction' for us and one of those 'differences and distinctions' for them, allowing them to make legal arguments in their defense if it were to come to that. Even more pointedly, it allows them to obfuscate and delay things in the media, in the judiciary, and in the court of public opinion to where they hope people will simply forget or give up.

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      • #18
        Dan_Eastvale
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Apr 2013
        • 10059

        If there's going to be forcing, I believe strongly that even private companies should be FORCED by law to not mandate the vax. Or masks neither since they don't help at all.

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        • #19
          EM2
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2008
          • 5470

          Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
          If there's going to be forcing, I believe strongly that even private companies should be FORCED by law to not mandate the vax. Or masks neither since they don't help at all.
          So, if they actually did work then FORCING private companies to mandate masks and vaxx is Okay?

          How about, now just an idea here, we do NOT allow gov to force anything upon private business or persons? hmm
          "duck the femocrats" Originally posted by M76

          If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim. Col. Jeff Cooper

          Originally posted by SAN compnerd
          It's the flu for crying out loud, just stop.

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          • #20
            theLBC
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Oct 2017
            • 6588

            New Zealand Gov’t Exempted Elite From ‘Deadly’ Covid Jabs, While Forcing Vax on Public

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            • #21
              theLBC
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Oct 2017
              • 6588

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              • #22
                Harland Barricuda
                Banned
                • Sep 2023
                • 80

                time to get the rope, boys

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                • #23
                  Dan_Eastvale
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 10059

                  Originally posted by EM2
                  So, if they actually did work then FORCING private companies to mandate masks and vaxx is Okay?

                  How about, now just an idea here, we do NOT allow gov to force anything upon private business or persons? hmm
                  Some things they need to mandate, like reasonable taxes, drug testing IF behavior suggests it, relatively safe working environment, anti discrimination laws, et al.

                  Companies should not be allowed to tell a woman applicant to show us this or that if you want the job.
                  Last edited by Dan_Eastvale; 10-05-2023, 8:12 PM.

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                  • #24
                    DoNotReply
                    Member
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 343

                    Originally posted by LBDamned
                    No one was forced.

                    Own your decisions.
                    They were coerced to comply. The weak complied. Some people said they took it to travel, they took it to keep their jobs. I was fully prepared for my wife to quit and homeschool if it came down to it. I was never in danger of losing my job. My wife did get medical exemption for not getting the jab and kept her job. Heads should roll for using a "medical emergency" to abandon the constitution.

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                    • #25
                      EM2
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 5470

                      Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                      Some things they need to mandate, like reasonable taxes, drug testing IF behavior suggests it, relatively safe working environment, anti discrimination laws, et al.

                      Companies should not be allowed to tell a woman applicant to show us this or that if you want the job.
                      Very well, so where is the line to be drawn?
                      Who gets to decide the scope of gov intrusion?

                      In a true free market a business would be free to discriminate how they see fit, and people could boycott as they see fit, resulting in an agreed upon behavior between the parties somewhere in between the extremes.
                      "duck the femocrats" Originally posted by M76

                      If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim. Col. Jeff Cooper

                      Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                      It's the flu for crying out loud, just stop.

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                      • #26
                        CartridgeCalls
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 1436

                        I have orders signed by Biden to get vaccinated or be terminated.

                        Look up Executive Order 14043.
                        Last edited by CartridgeCalls; 10-05-2023, 9:44 PM.
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                        • #27
                          Dan_Eastvale
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 10059

                          Originally posted by EM2
                          Very well, so where is the line to be drawn?
                          Who gets to decide the scope of gov intrusion?

                          In a true free market a business would be free to discriminate how they see fit, and people could boycott as they see fit, resulting in an agreed upon behavior between the parties somewhere in between the extremes.
                          Some here say we should have no government.
                          If that were so we would be trilingual.
                          English, Japanese, and Deutsch

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                          • #28
                            GimpsUnlimited
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 1653

                            I know we all like to place the blame on the few who gave the orders. But never forget whom provided the muscles so that those "orders/mandates" had teeth. The efficiency at which those orders were implemented would make Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot proud.

                            Your enemies are not only in DC, your state capital, but much closer than you think.











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                            Last edited by GimpsUnlimited; 10-06-2023, 9:49 PM.
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                            • #29
                              XDJYo
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                              • Apr 2012
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                              • #30
                                StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca
                                Veteran Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 2995

                                Originally posted by GimpsUnlimited
                                I know we all like to place the blame on the few who gave the orders. But never forget whom provided the muscles so that those "orders/mandates" had teeth. The efficiency at which those orders were implemented would make Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot proud.

                                Your enemies are not only in DC, your state capital, but much closer than you think.











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                                https://rumble.com/v1ydo78-never-for...h-edition.html
                                Im curious if there are any videos of Russian cops doing stuff like this during the plandemic.
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