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  • Palmaris
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2009
    • 6278

    J&J vax pulled by FDA!

    Surprise surprise!!! Do not doubt the Science! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ng-demand.html
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    foxtrotuniformlima
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 3454

    Surprise, Surprise - The FDA regulators did what big pharma asked them to do.


    From the article -
    The move was not unexpected because J&J’s parent company Jannsen had requested that federal regulators at the FDA withdraw authorization for its vaccine after it was revealed that the last tranche of doses – about 12.5 million – had expired.
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    • #3
      Dan_Eastvale
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Apr 2013
      • 10062

      after it was paused 'out of an abundance of caution' over rare blood clot concerns - which led to a plummet in demand

      And all these criminal government, universities, and private corporations mandating them from 'out of an over abundance of caution!

      J&J claims they're now out of the COVID vax business
      Last edited by Dan_Eastvale; 06-09-2023, 1:09 PM.

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      • #4
        OlderThanDirt
        FUBAR
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jun 2009
        • 5806

        Originally posted by foxtrotuniformlima
        Surprise, Surprise - The FDA regulators did what big pharma asked them to do.


        From the article -
        The move was not unexpected because J&J?s parent company Jannsen had requested that federal regulators at the FDA withdraw authorization for its vaccine after it was revealed that the last tranche of doses ? about 12.5 million ? had expired.
        So, nothing to do with the unsafe clot shot, but probably allowed them to take a huge write-off over their loss. Follow the money and it leads to the fooking bureaucracy and politicians.
        We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
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        • #5
          LAKA90034
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Mar 2009
          • 1386

          J&J was marked from the start.
          Once they stuck to their guns about not sharing their patent and providing subsequent royalties with .gov, the writing was on the wall. It's a shame that it was the safest and arguably most effective of the big 3 vaccines.

          Moderna briefly had a hitch...once they caved and shared the patent everything was magically ok.
          "I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace."

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            Epaphroditus
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 4888

            Safe and effective? Joking, right?

            Deigned to penetrate cell walls and nuclear membrane and most like to be integrated into host DNA. Highest per dose rate of adverse reaction until the 3rd Pfizer booster.
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            • #7
              sd_shooter
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2008
              • 13544

              They're all snake oil

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              • #8
                rational_behavior
                Member
                • Jan 2021
                • 152

                Its certainly safe and effective...

                [spoiler]for making money[/spoiler]

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                • #9
                  jager56
                  Member
                  • Aug 2018
                  • 200

                  Something
                  Last edited by jager56; 05-02-2024, 1:50 PM.

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                  • #10
                    The Gleam
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 12242

                    Originally posted by Epaphroditus
                    Safe and effective? Joking, right?

                    Deigned to penetrate cell walls and nuclear membrane and most like to be integrated into host DNA. Highest per dose rate of adverse reaction until the 3rd Pfizer booster.
                    I agree that ALL of the pseudo-vaccines were crap.

                    However, the J&J was adenovirus vector based, a proven and established technology that rivaled the MRNA nonsense in form and function, previously used on the successful Ebola virus developed in the early 1970s whereby none of those recipients showed any short or long term maladies and calamities from the vaccine itself.

                    It may sound scary when framed as you described it, but that is what a large number of vaccines do.

                    The adverse reactions with the J&J vaccine were on par with a lot of other vaccines, as opposed to more detrimental long-term effects from the MRNA pseudo-vaccines.

                    The recent failures in the history of trying to concoct a successful MRNA pseudo-vaccine for SARS and MERS, along with strokes, heart-issues, ADE syndrome, and other disastrous results, just a decade earlier, certainly make it a the greater target of a suspicious agenda in pushing the untested (by time) MRNA stuff over J&J.

                    And as we see now, it would appear that the remnants and collateral damage of the MRNA pseud-vaccines was a worse proposition, and have a longer damaging power.

                    From what was seen of the results, it was the safest method of the bunch - and would have been the ONLY type I would have accepted, had I ever agreed to any of the nonsensical mandated pseudo-vaccines in the first place. (Which I didn't, and held out).

                    Never got pseudo-vaccinated, and yet, to this day, never so much as a sniffle; never got COVID, even as colleagues, neighbors, and acquaintances were getting multiple MRNA pseudo-vaccines, their subsequent boosters - and coming down with COVID multiple times.

                    Gee, I wonder why!?!

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                    • #11
                      LAKA90034
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 1386

                      Originally posted by The Gleam
                      I agree that ALL of the pseudo-vaccines were crap.

                      However, the J&J was adenovirus vector based, a proven and established technology that rivaled the MRNA nonsense in form and function, previously used on the successful Ebola virus developed in the early 1970s whereby none of those recipients showed any short or long term maladies and calamities from the vaccine itself.

                      It may sound scary when framed as you described it, but that is what a large number of vaccines do.

                      The adverse reactions with the J&J vaccine were on par with a lot of other vaccines, as opposed to more detrimental long-term effects from the MRNA pseudo-vaccines.

                      The recent failures in the history of trying to concoct a successful MRNA pseudo-vaccine for SARS and MERS, along with strokes, heart-issues, ADE syndrome, and other disastrous results, just a decade earlier, certainly make it a the greater target of a suspicious agenda in pushing the untested (by time) MRNA stuff over J&J.

                      And as we see now, it would appear that the remnants and collateral damage of the MRNA pseud-vaccines was a worse proposition, and have a longer damaging power.

                      From what was seen of the results, it was the safest method of the bunch - and would have been the ONLY type I would have accepted, had I ever agreed to any of the nonsensical mandated pseudo-vaccines in the first place. (Which I didn't, and held out).

                      Never got pseudo-vaccinated, and yet, to this day, never so much as a sniffle; never got COVID, even as colleagues, neighbors, and acquaintances were getting multiple MRNA pseudo-vaccines, their subsequent boosters - and coming down with COVID multiple times.

                      Gee, I wonder why!?!

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                      Add to all of the above that it was the only option that didn't have a negative efficacy re covid infection/reinfection. Hence my post.

                      I've learned that it takes much more typing than I have the time/inclination to perform to speak truth to self annointed experts.
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                      • #12
                        LAKA90034
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1386

                        Originally posted by rational_behavior
                        Its certainly safe and effective...

                        [spoiler]for making money[/spoiler]
                        J&J supplied their vaccine for under $10/dose.
                        Moderna and Pfizer were $27 and $37/dose..each requiring 2 doses.

                        Charging 5 to 7 times less than the mRNA shots...they were leaving a ton of $$ on the table.

                        From what I had read they were breaking even. They took dev money from .gov..maybe they did the right thing.

                        J&J asked to let their authorization go after the last several million doses expired without being administered.
                        "I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace."

                        Thomas Paine


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