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  • TrappedinCalifornia
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2018
    • 8993

    Incurable Bowel Cancer ? All Because The NHS Turned Into A Covid-only Service

    I believe we discussed, several times and in several different contexts, this potential... At 34, Jon has incurable bowel cancer ? all because the NHS turned into a Covid-only service

    ...The couple were incredibly happy, planning to move into a bigger place, start a family; life was sweet, apart from an annoying stomach complaint Jon had seen the GP about in January.

    He'd been referred for a colonoscopy that was supposed to happen in March, but lockdown kiboshed that. The appointment was pushed back until August when a benign polyp was discovered in Jon's bowel. The consultant said he didn't have the right tool to take it out (he didn't mention it was because the growth was so large) but he told Jon he?d get him back in to do it. "It was no big deal, I thought," recalls Jon.

    There came a second lockdown, and more restrictions again. Jon would periodically get a letter through the post "from one or two private companies which the NHS had clearly sub-contracted to deal with that kind of thing". The letters basically said, "Things are difficult at this time, we are busy, but don?t worry, we haven?t forgotten you."

    Jon's symptoms gradually got worse. He spent a lot of time on the phone to the hospital pestering them, asking when he could have his polyp removed. Months passed; still no appointment.

    He trusted the NHS. "That was a mistake. I thought if there was any chance it could be serious the doctors wouldn?t leave me hanging on for so long." But he did start to worry. There was bleeding, a lot of pain. Eventually, Jon got his appointment to remove the polyp in December 2021. But the surgeon who opened him up didn?t remove the polyp because the polyp had disappeared inside a malevolent mass.

    Jon was diagnosed with bowel cancer, which had spread to the liver, after "two years of wrong diagnoses, delayed appointments and missed opportunities to deal with the disease before it metastasised". Nikki was with him when a doctor basically told him he wasn?t going to live...

    Covid posed no risk to Jon. It was the response to Covid, which he believes protected the elderly at the expense of younger people like him, which caused his tragedy...

    God, I get so sick of writing about this. Sorry, everyone, for repeating myself, but I simply cannot believe that our Government, and senior NHS officials are happy to stick their fingers in their ears while literally thousands of people suffer avoidable deaths. Jon should not be terminally ill. The NHS failed him because it became a Covid-only service, just as he predicted, and it continues to fail thousands of others because the cancer crisis is just too hard or too shaming...
    Oh... Well... That's in England. It wouldn't/didn't happen in the U.S. - right?

    After all, they have 'socialized' their medical industry. No one wants to do that in the U.S. - if you can afford it - right? (I know some people who have to wait 3 - 6 months or more to get an appointment to see their doctors and then weeks or months for any kind of follow-up due to the backlog. Otherwise, they're told to go to a walk-in clinic or the ER; neither of which deals with non-emergency stuff all that well around here.)

    I'm aware of several 'long term care' facilities which are still working with 'visiting nurses' to maintain enough staff; something which isn't always possible. But, until this month, there will still restrictions on some of the services allowed to be offered by some medical franchises and, even now, it can take weeks/months to get an appointment for just an X-Ray or MRI. That's without even acknowledging those who 'proactively' avoided medical care out of fear of COVID.

    Even now, some doctors are 'practicing' via 'telemedicine' where the doctor isn't physically in the room with the patient and, at best, relies on a 'nurse' (often, a student nurse or recently graduated 'nurse') to provide basic statistics and even care. In fact, back in March, when I had an actual appointment to remove stitches from slicing up my hand, the doctor I was supposed to be seeing wasn't "in" that day and gave a nurse permission over the phone to remove them; something she had a little trouble with despite years of experience, blaming me for waiting so long despite the fact that I was still within the time frame given me when the stitches were put in and still wasn't completely healed. I couldn't completely blame the doctor as I was told it was a 'family emergency' on their part and they'd been going full tilt for awhile.

    How many 'excess deaths' and other issues have arisen due to facility closures, staff layoffs and shortages, delays in even being able to get basic treatments other than 'emergencies' and similar have occurred? How many older people died of loneliness and 'neglect' simply because of staff shortages and because family weren't allowed access? How many medical professionals have sought employment elsewhere due to burnout or safety concerns or just to pay the bills?

    Periodically, we get members starting threads asking why this section of the site is still operating. After all, COVID is "over" and there's no point, in their estimation. But, is it really "over" yet? Or, are we just beginning to see the ramifications we've suspected were coming?
  • #2
    bigbossman
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2012
    • 11016

    Originally posted by TrappedinCalifornia

    Oh... Well... That's in England. It wouldn't/didn't happen in the U.S. - right?
    Kaiser did pretty much the same thing to my father, back in 2003.
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    • #3
      Dan_Eastvale
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Apr 2013
      • 10050

      Shutdown absolutely necessary yearly checkups, especially for seniors.

      All to "protect" the masses from a nothingburger!

      Criminal!

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      • #4
        sigfan91
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2009
        • 10255

        I am so thankful that I was not sick with anything during the shut down and did not require any kind of medical care.

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        • #5
          fredseviltwin
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 56

          I agree. The cancellation of ?routine medical procedures like colonoscopy?s. Mine was put off for over a year. Thankfully, the polyps that were removed when the procedure was completed were pre cancerous.
          As a ?senior? citizen they won?t allow another one for 10 more years.


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          • #6
            70runner
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2013
            • 719

            I entered local ER with chest pain the very evening they were pitching their Covid tent out front to "screen" admissions, circa March 2020. Departed hospital 3 days later with widowmaker stent. While I was there they were beginning to cancel visitors and restrict "non-emergency" admissions.

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            • #7
              Big Chudungus
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2021
              • 2897

              Originally posted by bigbossman
              Kaiser did pretty much the same thing to my father, back in 2003.
              Friend's mom was murdered by Kaiser stalling them on cancer diagnosis until it was too late for anything but a quick (and cheap) hail mary chemo which killed her. She'd told Kaiser 1/2 dozen times "No, I think it might be cancer" and they were experts at stalling and gas lighting her, and guilt trip her from seeking outside 2nd opinion. And these were educated upper-middle class people with Law and other advanced degrees.

              Amazing. My Union offers Kaiser or Blue Cross PPO and almost everyone picks Kaiser because that is default if you don't pick BC. LOTS of guys have Kaiser through wife's job, so I tell them "No god damn reason to have DOUBLE Kaiser, its like paying twice for Driver's Lic, so next November get BC as backup, secondary, etc, even if you like Kaiser" and they never do. Its a cult.

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              • #8
                bigbossman
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Dec 2012
                • 11016

                Originally posted by Big Chudungus
                Friend's mom was murdered by Kaiser stalling them on cancer diagnosis until it was too late for anything but a quick (and cheap) hail mary chemo which killed her.
                In my father's case, they diagnosed colon cancer as a bleeding stomach ulcer. After a year of treatment, they diagnosed colon cancer. They told him it was too late to do anything about it, and to get his affairs in order. He was in his 70's at the time.

                We took him to USC Medical Center. They operated, followed up with some chemo, and he lived into his mid 90's.

                Eff Kaiser.
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                • #9
                  Big Chudungus
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2021
                  • 2897

                  Originally posted by bigbossman
                  In my father's case, they diagnosed colon cancer as a bleeding stomach ulcer. After a year of treatment, they diagnosed colon cancer. They told him it was too late to do anything about it, and to get his affairs in order. He was in his 70's at the time.

                  We took him to USC Medical Center. They operated, followed up with some chemo, and he lived into his mid 90's.

                  Eff Kaiser.
                  Interesting, I'd wondered how Kaiser might react if presented with legit outside cancer diagnoses after their crew balked at even testing/looking for it.

                  I've had guys tell me Kaiser will refer out procedures they can't do (motorcycle skull injury needing bondo) and fully covered.

                  When I had Kaiser the doctor always seems in big hurry to get out of the room like I just cut a wicked fart and all my family reports same. All my PPO doctors always seem to stall like they are giving me 5th and 6th chances to tell them why I'm REALLY there to see them, asking "so how are things, in general, with you?, any major new things in your life, changes SOCIALLY?"

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