Ventilators more dangerous than C19!

[Elgatodeacero]

The findings refute the idea that a cytokine storm following COVID-19 - an overwhelming inflammation response causing organ failure - was responsible for a significant number of deaths. There was no evidence of multi-organ failure in the patients studied.

Instead, COVID-19 patients were more likely to develop ventilator-associated pneumonia (VAP) and for longer periods. Cases where VAP didn't respond to treatment were significant in terms of the overall mortality rates in the study.

Article:

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sciencealert.com%2Fmost-covid-19-deaths-may-be-the-result-of-a-completely-different-infection

The study:

https://www.jci.org/articles/view/170682

[p7m8jg]

Without any chance of true journalism occurring in our country this is just another study for conspiracy theorists, whether true or not.

[gimebakmybulits]

Yep, and remdesivir had a 20-30% chance of killing you too...

[Dan_Eastvale]

So, up to 40% mortality with ventilators and VAP in ICU patients with pre existing pulmonary issues.


"Ventilator-associated pneumonia (VAP) is one of the most frequent ICU-acquired infections. Reported incidences vary widely from 5 to 40% depending on the setting and diagnostic criteria. VAP is associated with prolonged duration of mechanical ventilation and ICU stay. The estimated attributable mortality of VAP is around 10%, with higher mortality rates in surgical ICU patients and in patients with mid-range severity scores at admission. Microbiological confirmation of infection is strongly encouraged."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...y%20encouraged.


Damned if you do and damned if you don't

[Palmaris]

Why it took 3 years to figure out? If you come here three years ago-it was already deemed deadly for human being.