Read em and weep Ivermectin deniers

[larkja]

I remember driving home from the airport at the start of all this nonsense, and listening to Mayo Clinic Virologist on the radio talking about how Zinc and Vitamin D were shown to significantly reduce the viral load.

Never got traction in the public arena, but from the onset I chose to put my money on an actual doctor/specialist, rather than the random azz-hats on this forum that set them selves up as SME's. Worked out pretty well for my family and me.

Same here. Every morning, I take C, D, Zinc, and Quercetin along with my concoction of other vitamins such as Krill Oil, pre/probiotics, etc.

So far, so good.

[therealnickb]

That's my point. 1/2 ivermectin; 1/2 placebo, but ""All patients with COVID-19 were treated with vitamin C and vitamin D."

That means both the ivermectin AND the placebo groups were treated with C and D.

Of course. So the only variable is ivermectin.

You?d need several other control groups excluding c&d to know their influence. Seems like common sense.

I?d be more interested to see a breakdown of other health factors. Diabetes, obesity, sedentary lifestyle, etc etc.

[Epaphroditus]

There is no magic pill - real medicinal substances work in conjunction with others. Our immune systems are quite complex and rely on the presence of many compounds.

Except poison. Simply taking poison alone will injure or kill you.

[wpage]

A proven drug, put down by a political agenda that was false.

[ibanezfoo]

Seriously, who f'ing cares at this point

People need these constant reminders because if this crap happens again its war. I will not mask or do any of the nonsense they pushed last time. If anyone gives me crap I will remove their head from their body.

[XDJYo]

Seriously, who f'ing cares at this point

And another example of why we care.

https://youtu.be/EIL3cZ0u6JY

[timdps]

Seriously, who f'ing cares at this point

So what?cha gonna do when they release the next Covid version, stay with the vacs or score some Ivermectin?

[larkja]

Of course. So the only variable is ivermectin.

You?d need several other control groups excluding c&d to know their influence. Seems like common sense.

I?d be more interested to see a breakdown of other health factors. Diabetes, obesity, sedentary lifestyle, etc etc.

Another problem is there was no testing prior to the study. For example, what were the groups' C and D levels prior to the study? Were they supplementing before the study? If some were low on D, then given supplements to bump the D levels, maybe that's what did it?

And yes, would like to see a breakdown of diabetes, obesity, etc. too. I have spoken with many doctors and all of them have said diabetes and obesity (along with other less common comorbidities) are the biggest contributing factors to recovery or death.

[therealnickb]

Another problem is there was no testing prior to the study. For example, what were the groups' C and D levels prior to the study? Were they supplementing before the study? If some were low on D, then given supplements to bump the D levels, maybe that's what did it?

And yes, would like to see a breakdown of diabetes, obesity, etc. too. I have spoken with many doctors and all of them have said diabetes and obesity (along with other less common comorbidities) are the biggest contributing factors to recovery or death.

Again, there?s no way to know the vitamin impact from that study. Ivermectin helped a lot seems pretty clear.

Other studies show benefits or problems from lots of variables. Most of which were know very early on.

[sacrvrrat]

Why is this study any better then the ones that show no benefit?

The amount inconsistency on both sides is staggering.


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[therealnickb]

Why is this study any better then the ones that show no benefit?

The amount inconsistency on both sides is staggering.


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Which studies showed no benefit? The very early ?approved? studies that gave ivermectin to already very sick people? Nothing worked on those folks IIRC.

[ACfixer]

I've never faulted anyone that did their homework and decided the vax was best for them, that's their choice and I respect that and they get to live or die with their decision. Contrast that with those that belittled, berated, and even threatened me for not taking it.

Why is this study any better then the ones that show no benefit?

Most studies show Ivermectin helped, often to a great degree.

All studies show the "vax" is ineffective at best, poisonous perhaps.

Do what you like, believe what you choose. I made my choice and came through in two days with mild symptoms, my triple vax'd GF has had it three times and was really pretty darn sick twice. That's my study, you can call it anecdotal and for you based on my sample size I would agree. For me, it's real life. Now, who's study is more accurate?

[sacrvrrat]

I've never faulted anyone that did their homework and decided the vax was best for them, that's their choice and I respect that and they get to live or die with their decision. Contrast that with those that belittled, berated, and even threatened me for not taking it.



Most studies show Ivermectin helped, often to a great degree.

All studies show the "vax" is ineffective at best, poisonous perhaps.

Do what you like, believe what you choose. I made my choice and came through in two days with mild symptoms, my triple vax'd GF has had it three times and was really pretty darn sick twice. That's my study, you can call it anecdotal and for you based on my sample size I would agree. For me, it's real life. Now, who's study is more accurate?

I don?t disagree. I generally stay out these threads, because while I don?t usually agree totally with the so called ?anti-vax? crowd the position they were put in by the government and business is unforgivable and made little sense. They deserve to stick it to the vax pushers.

Anecdotally for me, some died from Covid, others where permanently harmed by the vax, some got Covid and it was like the flu regardless of vax status, and others have never gotten sick whether vaxed or unvaxed. Do your own research and pick what is best for you is my recommendation.

I only made the comment because I am tired of people not questioning things simply because they agree with it. Politics, Covid, race, religion, whatever. Way too much trying to be right and not enough trying to be correct.


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[LBDamned]

I've never faulted anyone that did their homework and decided the vax was best for them, that's their choice and I respect that and they get to live or die with their decision. Contrast that with those that belittled, berated, and even threatened me for not taking it.



Most studies show Ivermectin helped, often to a great degree.

All studies show the "vax" is ineffective at best, poisonous perhaps.

Do what you like, believe what you choose. I made my choice and came through in two days with mild symptoms, my triple vax'd GF has had it three times and was really pretty darn sick twice. That's my study, you can call it anecdotal and for you based on my sample size I would agree. For me, it's real life. Now, who's study is more accurate?

Interestingly, the type that 'push' vax are the type that point fingers everywhere other than at themselves when things go wrong (not just covid related)...

On the other hand - people that chose no vax, 'generally' own their decisions (again, not just covid related).

[LBDamned]

I don?t disagree. I generally stay out these threads, because while I don?t usually agree totally with the so called ?anti-vax? crowd the position they were put in by the government and business is unforgivable and made little sense. They deserve to stick it to the vax pushers.

Anecdotally for me, some died from Covid, others where permanently harmed by the vax, some got Covid and it was like the flu regardless of vax status, and others have never gotten sick whether vaxed or unvaxed. Do your own research and pick what is best for you is my recommendation.

I only made the comment because I am tired of people not questioning things simply because they agree with it. Politics, Covid, race, religion, whatever. Way too much trying to be right and not enough trying to be correct.


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Most people won't make their own decisions, much less own them...

They wait for someone to tell them what to do, then blame others if/when it's wrong.

It wasn't always this way... but it is with most things these days.