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  • SWalt
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2012
    • 8637

    The Thread that started it all....

    I rarely come to or post in this forum but I did today. Reading some of the posts its all the same, lots of patting on the backs from "pure bloods" and "told you so" and the latest studies. But I remembered all the panic back in early 2020 and thought hmmm.....how many were panicking back then? I didn't come to any conclusion but reading some of the posts its evident that some of you were. I just find it interesting. My earliest post, #2 on 1/21/2020...

    China, the incubator of diseases. Other than Ebola in Africa you never hear of disease coming from any other place. One would think the Amazon would kick out some sort of disease but you never hear of that.
    and post #5910 on 3/11/2022 I posted...

    Guess what? It will replicate and will fill the Country. No ifs ands or buts. Luck of the draw. Wash your hands,try to get out of the habit of picking your nose and touching your mouth and that is all anyone can really do. If there is a higher death toll from COVID 19 vs the flu, its the way it is.
    to which someone responded I "have a commitment to being a super spreader",

    and another responded to me being a "super spreader"...

    "I think he just realized today that this COVID thing is real, and he's grappling with an enormous shock. Previously he was one of the "flu is worse, this is a nothingburger" crowd.

    We're all on the same team, I would just leave him alone to sort out his emotions. In a few days he can join us in productive discussion."



    The thread is here.......



    After this thread Librarian created the "Covid 19 Forum". So which ones here were in full panic mode hoarding, wearing full respirators and worried about super spreaders?? How many went "meh..." as I did? Really wondering about the "pure bloods", how many were in full panic mode driven by the hysteria? In any case, I think its a hoot reading through some of the posts. Some have lived and learned, others.......
    ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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    "...which from their verbosity, their endless tautologies, their involutions of case within case, and parenthesis within parenthesis, and their multiplied efforts at certainty by saids and aforesaids, by ors and by ands, to make them more plain, do really render them more perplexed and incomprehensible, not only to common readers, but to lawyers themselves. " - Thomas Jefferson
  • #2
    SWalt
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2012
    • 8637

    Ohh....another blast from the COVID past.......

    ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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    "...which from their verbosity, their endless tautologies, their involutions of case within case, and parenthesis within parenthesis, and their multiplied efforts at certainty by saids and aforesaids, by ors and by ands, to make them more plain, do really render them more perplexed and incomprehensible, not only to common readers, but to lawyers themselves. " - Thomas Jefferson

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    • #3
      johncage
      Banned
      • Dec 2018
      • 993

      on the spectrum of risk aversion, being in the middle is the healthiest.

      i mean you probably shouldn't want to be infected and spreading it around when it was in its most potent stages

      neither do you want to be wearing masks alone in cars when the virus has reached .01% fatality

      both seem to be pathological rather than rational behavior.

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      • #4
        DaveInOroValley
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jan 2010
        • 8967

        The biggest one I remember is "It's manageable"
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        Vet since 1978

        "Don't bother me with facts, Son. I've already made up my mind." -Foghorn Leghorn

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        • #5
          theLBC
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Oct 2017
          • 6716

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          • #6
            therealnickb
            King- Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2011
            • 8919

            I remember being chastised vehemently for question the logic of someone afraid to shake hands but still considering going ahead with a cruise they booked before the fear campaign began.

            I also caught my one and only ban so far because I called out one of our fear mongering dickheads as such.

            Never considered the vax. Almost never wore a damn mask. Called bs at almost ever official announcement. It was pretty obvious within a couple weeks that no one in charge had a f ing clue. As usual, “we gotta do something” prevailed.

            Ridiculous. The entire episode still pisses me off to no end.

            So, no panic ever OP.

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            • #7
              alpha_romeo_XV
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2006
              • 2953

              "Two Weeks"

              I still enjoy the Covid-19 meme thread



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              • #8
                therealnickb
                King- Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2011
                • 8919

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                • #9
                  Squatch
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 886

                  On another site like this and even here I was attacked and ridiculed for questioning the "science". Even told I was a killer for not wearing a mask. This from a lot of people who distrust the government. I guess scare some people enough and they cave.

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                  • #10
                    user120312
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 6544

                    Here's my first post on 'the virus', back in March 2020...

                    IMO, the virus is real but the rest is an op....clever manipulation. Pretty brilliant, IMO. Segregate/isolate enemies and crash the economy at the same time.
                    Within a week or two of that, in the C19 forum, cynicism firmly established.


                    Perfect storm and invincible soldiers.
                    Deadly virus and learned scientists and doctors to save us all. Brilliant actually. How can we question those who purportedly seek to save our lives? Somewhere, someone is smiling.

                    At that point in real life I'd already mostly recovered from the first infection with normal flu care. I went on to be a control subject. Wore a mask exactly twice because it was required, never took any medication/treatment except as normal for cold/flu care, never was vaccinated, am over 60. Unremarkable. I got the Hong Kong flu and survived that too in '68.

                    Is it coincidence that cancer happened to take out a significant amount of my social circle during this op? Aggressive cancer in otherwise healthy people in my age group. IDK. They haven't killed me, yet.

                    However, I've always been suspicious of any human in authority, going way back to the 60's, so I never saw it as any pure blood glandhanding, rather steely eyed resolve to repel any attacks by humans who feel the omnipotence to attack, control and manipulate the lives of others. I will revile them to the death. Scum. There's a picture of one of those scum in this post.

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                    • #11
                      stonefly-2
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 4993

                      Strictly speaking the thread that started it all was titled "Can anyone
                      translate Chinese".

                      I posted it the day you tubes appeared of people tipping over on the street in Wuhan and as you note it was completely obvious that whatever it was would sweep the planet.

                      I would say there have been 3 most prominent ways of coping with the issue as time went by.

                      "Denial" which I felt was just a protective mechanism and again as you say
                      best to let them sort out their emotions but the occasional splash of the cold water of reality was helpful I think in a "tough love" sort of way.
                      It's not just a cold.

                      I'm not a doctor (hope you're well Brad) nor did I play one on TV but I did have a fundamental understanding of what to expect in response to the situation from medical professionals.

                      In one thread comment was made about the movie "the Andromeda strain" where hope rested on the anomaly of an old man and a newborn that seemed to be immune from the disease the movie was based on.

                      I was and am in this second coping group that understood that "medicine" would be searching for the anomaly that would provide the answer while taking any unproven precautions that seemed prudent in the meantime.

                      Yes I stocked up big on N95 masks before anyone knew and still use hypochlorous acid from my generator but for first aid and a dental rinse now days.

                      But that as they say is where the trouble started.

                      Early on it was discovered that parts of Africa and India had much lower
                      rates of infection and death (the anomaly) leading to Ivermectin being
                      discovered as the first of many agents effective at warding off damage from
                      this bioweapon.

                      Then there is the 3rd coping group.

                      I wish you/them well,

                      you are my brother and if you come to have any recriminations that stem from having trusted that major part of "medicine" that diverged from the approach I described above and resulting in untimely deaths and incapacitation I'm with you not on the "winning side" of the argument.

                      If I make light of the stupidity of taking an untested,

                      genetic modification injection it's only that you may be a caution to others.
                      What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                      Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                      https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                      I was born under a wandrin star.

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                      • #12
                        SWalt
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 8637

                        Originally posted by stonefly-2
                        Strictly speaking the thread that started it all was titled "Can anyone
                        translate Chinese".

                        I posted it the day you tubes appeared of people tipping over on the street in Wuhan and as you note it was completely obvious that whatever it was would sweep the planet.


                        I would say there have been 3 most prominent ways of coping with the issue as time went by.

                        "Denial" which I felt was just a protective mechanism and again as you say
                        best to let them sort out their emotions but the occasional splash of the cold water of reality was helpful I think in a "tough love" sort of way.
                        It's not just a cold.

                        I'm not a doctor (hope you're well Brad) nor did I play one on TV but I did have a fundamental understanding of what to expect in response to the situation from medical professionals.

                        In one thread comment was made about the movie "the Andromeda strain" where hope rested on the anomaly of an old man and a newborn that seemed to be immune from the disease the movie was based on.

                        I was and am in this second coping group that understood that "medicine" would be searching for the anomaly that would provide the answer while taking any unproven precautions that seemed prudent in the meantime.

                        Yes I stocked up big on N95 masks before anyone knew and still use hypochlorous acid from my generator but for first aid and a dental rinse now days.

                        But that as they say is where the trouble started.

                        Early on it was discovered that parts of Africa and India had much lower
                        rates of infection and death (the anomaly) leading to Ivermectin being
                        discovered as the first of many agents effective at warding off damage from
                        this bioweapon.

                        Then there is the 3rd coping group.

                        I wish you/them well,

                        you are my brother and if you come to have any recriminations that stem from having trusted that major part of "medicine" that diverged from the approach I described above and resulting in untimely deaths and incapacitation I'm with you not on the "winning side" of the argument.

                        If I make light of the stupidity of taking an untested,

                        genetic modification injection it's only that you may be a caution to others.
                        Oh yeah, there were a lot of threads before. Many with videos or pictures from China when COVID first started. Crowded hospitals, people lying in the streets, etc. Then threads wondering how it got started, bat soup, pangolins, bio weapon. Best thing about CGN is all the information that flows in and the arguments.
                        ^^^The above is just an opinion.

                        NRA Patron Member
                        CRPA 5 yr Member

                        "...which from their verbosity, their endless tautologies, their involutions of case within case, and parenthesis within parenthesis, and their multiplied efforts at certainty by saids and aforesaids, by ors and by ands, to make them more plain, do really render them more perplexed and incomprehensible, not only to common readers, but to lawyers themselves. " - Thomas Jefferson

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