The CDC grossly exaggerated the evidence for mask mandates

[bigbossman]

As if we didn't know this already:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/surprise-the-cdc-grossly-exaggerated-the-evidence-for-mask-mandates/ar-AA17e3cc?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=5298356de2b949828a284a990345cbcf

and.....

And finally....

But one thing is clear: Instead of following the science on masks, the CDC distorted it to support a predetermined conclusion.

[Scota4570]

Went to a specialist doctor yesterday. They required masks. I asked the nurse about it. She said it was office policy, not a state or county requirement. She agreed it was useless.

I may complain next time to the office manager. Why is the office management or medical group management practicing medicine?? They are not qualified to do so. IF a medical practice is insisting on requiring something that has no medical value, it casts doubt on their competence as medical service provider.

On the other hand, I know they will not change. Will being a troublemaker be in my best interest?? Being right and getting what I want is not always the same thing.

[twinfin]

On the other hand, I know they will not change. Will being a troublemaker be in my best interest?? Being right and getting what I want is not always the same thing.

Yes, being a "trouble maker" is in all of our best interest. The evil people want you to remain silent. They use information warfare to try to keep people like you and me in fear of calmly and firmly speaking the truth.

Standing up for truth, on a daily basis, helps to undermine their power and strengthen those around you who may not know the tactics of the enemy but know deep down inside that something's not right.

So yes, speak the truth and do it with tact, style and diplomacy appropriate for the situation.

[Dr Pete]

I said the same thing to myself just last week while in the doctors office.

I don't have any confidence they can treat me while making nonsense rules about mask policy.

On a side personal note I was sadly "woke" when asking at the pain management clinic about my entire body and trying to fix what's been ailing me.

I was told "we don't use the term fix here" we are her to manage your pain only.

And people wonder why there are problems in America with addiction to pain medication?

[Dr Pete]

I said the same thing to myself just last week while in the doctors office.

I don't have any confidence they can treat me while making nonsense rules about mask policy.

On a side personal note I was sad when asking at the pain management clinic about my entire body and trying to fix what's been ailing me.

I was told "we don't use the term fix here" we are her to manage your pain only.

And people wonder why there are problems in America with addiction to pain medication?

[sigfan91]

Went to a specialist doctor yesterday. They required masks. I asked the nurse about it. She said it was office policy, not a state or county requirement. She agreed it was useless.

I may complain next time to the office manager. Why is the office management or medical group management practicing medicine?? They are not qualified to do so. IF a medical practice is insisting on requiring something that has no medical value, it casts doubt on their competence as medical service provider.

On the other hand, I know they will not change. Will being a troublemaker be in my best interest?? Being right and getting what I want is not always the same thing.

[EM2]

Counterpoint, "the customer is always right".

[Creeping Incrementalism]

Coronaviruses average about the same size as influenza viruses. Many studies of masks versus influenza viruses done over decades show that masks don't help. The idea that masks would stop coronaviruses was always pure idiotic hysteria, and the fact the medical establishment did a 180 from the well established conventional wisdom that masks don't work in early 2020, showed how easy it is for "science" to fall prey to an excuse for the government to control something as basic as breathing freely around others.

[numpty]

Yes, being a "trouble maker" is in all of our best interest. The evil people want you to remain silent. They use information warfare to try to keep people like you and me in fear of calmly and firmly speaking the truth.

Standing up for truth, on a daily basis, helps to undermine their power and strengthen those around you who may not know the tactics of the enemy but know deep down inside that something's not right.

So yes, speak the truth and do it with tact, style and diplomacy appropriate for the situation.

This ^^^

I've learned this over the last three years. I've also learned that sometimes they are just too scared to speak up for fear of a confrontation. All of those tiktok videos of Karens yelling at people in Walmart for not masking their toddlers do NOT represent reality. What I've discovered is that there are VERY few people that want a fight. During the mask mandates I would go everywhere without putting one on. I only remember getting aggressively confronted at El Super and Kaiser. Everywhere else didn't say a thing. Also, when I would speak up and defend my actions, explain there is no law requiring me to, that they weren't effective, etc. etc. etc., several times people would thank me for standing up. Hopefully that emboldened them to stand up for themselves next time. And maybe that would embolden someone else another time.

When I would really get down and discuss this with family/friends/acquantances/etc. they could not support their stance on it. With my college best friend, it got down to, "Even if it helps 0.1%, I'm going to do it." Stupid!

They don't wear them now. He's pissed that Fauci duped him. He and his family got the vax, but they aren't getting any boosters because now they see they didn't work, that it was a farce.

People have woken up, but I think this whole thing had more nefarious intentions behind it.

[SWalt]

Coronaviruses average about the same size as influenza viruses. Many studies of masks versus influenza viruses done over decades show that masks don't help. The idea that masks would stop coronaviruses was always pure idiotic hysteria, and the fact the medical establishment did a 180 from the well established conventional wisdom that masks don't work in early 2020, showed how easy it is for "science" to fall prey to an excuse for the government to control something as basic as breathing freely around others.

Yup


Remember the study that showed 1 sneeze would rain droplets 2 aisles over in a grocery store so wearing a mask was a must?

[stonefly-2]

I don't remember any "evidence" being presented.

As I recall it was about half "we got to do something" and half happy talk about the masks sopping up moisture particles that may contain the virus.

Masks stop virus like a cyclone fence stops flies at a bar-b-que.

An apt analogy don't you think?

A mesh too big to stop them in front with ample way around the side or over the top.

[DoNotReply]

I knew masks didn't work after crawling under my house time after time with a n95 mask before covid. Dirt and dust was still inside the mask. It definitely won't stop a virus.