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  • WingDings
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 1278

    “coRreLAtion doES noT eQuAL CAUsaTIoN”



    Average booster taker circa 2023 (colorized).
  • #2
    The Gleam
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2011
    • 12242

    The frequency is increasing.... in another month, they will no longer be able to ignore the issue or gaslight on the numbers of those 16 to 54 suddenly dying right and left from heart-attacks. What's disturbing is the quickness by the NeoSocialist Left immediately dismissing the plausibility without any evidence it's not.

    So maybe it's Fentanyl, maybe it's steroid use, maybe it's the increase of soy-based foods, maybe something else entirely, maybe it's not the pseudo-vaccines - but prove it.

    There definitely is something amiss that warrants investigation to be sure of what it is and what it is not.

    https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...1824795&page=3


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    Originally posted by Librarian
    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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    • #3
      OlderThanDirt
      FUBAR
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jun 2009
      • 5807

      Maybe it was planned.
      We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
      Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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      • #4
        Fastattack
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 1653

        Originally posted by OlderThanDirt
        Maybe it was planned.
        Maybe they are too full of hubris.

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        • #5
          RickD427
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2007
          • 9263

          "Correlation does not equal causation"

          That's a very true, and very "sterile" statement.

          I've often seen the point much more effectively communicated with the example "Fire Trucks Do Not Cause Fires."

          There is a very strong correlation between the number of fire trucks at the scene of a fire, and the dollar value of damage caused by the fire. The scene of a very large multiple building fire will have a dozen or more fire trucks at the scene. A small grease pan fire will likely only have a single fire truck dispatched. The more trucks there are, the more damage that you get.

          Therefore, we should not send fire trucks to fires in order to limit the resulting damage.
          If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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          • #6
            The Gleam
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 12242

            Originally posted by RickD427
            "Correlation does not equal causation"

            That's a very true, and very "sterile" statement.

            I've often seen the point much more effectively communicated with the example "Fire Trucks Do Not Cause Fires."

            There is a very strong correlation between the number of fire trucks at the scene of a fire, and the dollar value of damage caused by the fire. The scene of a very large multiple building fire will have a dozen or more fire trucks at the scene. A small grease pan fire will likely only have a single fire truck dispatched. The more trucks there are, the more damage that you get.

            Therefore, we should not send fire trucks to fires in order to limit the resulting damage.

            True - but if it was training day up in the Malibu hills, with 6 firetrucks on site, whereby during their presence a 50,000 acre brush fire ignited/originated at that spot, one wouldn't simply dismiss the idea entirely that either a truck lacking a spark arrestor or some other aspect in use of the truck, could have possibly started the fire.

            It would be worth posing the question and investigating, unless of course you controlled the narrative and the investigation as Fire Marshall and did not want to investigate for fear of what may be discovered. So you divert the topic, deride and ridicule your inquisitors for merely posing the question.

            That's what is going on here.

            It's using "Correlation does not equal causation" tropes to flippantly dismiss and disregard even questions as to what may be plausible and worth investigating, due to Leftist media's strict adherence to an agenda and narrative about pseudo-vaccines - to the point they refuse investigating it at all.

            It may even be they don't want to ever have to admit they were accomplice to what had been a politically-driven and divisive take on the marketing, promotion, and persuasion of the pseudo-vaccine, which may turn out to have deadly residual side-effects.

            It would not be the first time media has done this in the past 100 years.

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            Last edited by The Gleam; 01-21-2023, 2:29 PM.
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            Originally posted by Librarian
            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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            • #7
              stix213
              AKA: Joe Censored
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2009
              • 18998

              Originally posted by RickD427
              "Correlation does not equal causation"

              That's a very true, and very "sterile" statement.

              I've often seen the point much more effectively communicated with the example "Fire Trucks Do Not Cause Fires."

              There is a very strong correlation between the number of fire trucks at the scene of a fire, and the dollar value of damage caused by the fire. The scene of a very large multiple building fire will have a dozen or more fire trucks at the scene. A small grease pan fire will likely only have a single fire truck dispatched. The more trucks there are, the more damage that you get.

              Therefore, we should not send fire trucks to fires in order to limit the resulting damage.
              I've always liked flu cases decrease as ice cream consumption increases. As ice cream consumption decreases, flu cases skyrocket. Therefore people should eat more ice cream for the apparent protective benefits.

              (Ice cream consumption is high in the summer, and is at a low point in the winter)

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              • #8
                JCHavasu
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2016
                • 672

                Correlation doesn't equal causation. But it doesn't "not" equal it either. The people that often shriek about correlation not equaling causation often ignore that correlation MAY indicate causation.
                "You fickers are all cray cray in my opinion. Non of you have an iQ over 80." - SandyCrotchSurfer aka SandyEggoSurf

                "News stories and the truth are a bit like fraternal twins. They are related but only vaguely resemble each other."

                "The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich quick theory of life." - Theodore Roosevelt

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                • #9
                  sigfan91
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 10306

                  Originally posted by RickD427
                  "Correlation does not equal causation"

                  That's a very true, and very "sterile" statement.

                  I've often seen the point much more effectively communicated with the example "Fire Trucks Do Not Cause Fires."

                  There is a very strong correlation between the number of fire trucks at the scene of a fire, and the dollar value of damage caused by the fire. The scene of a very large multiple building fire will have a dozen or more fire trucks at the scene. A small grease pan fire will likely only have a single fire truck dispatched. The more trucks there are, the more damage that you get.

                  Therefore, we should not send fire trucks to fires in order to limit the resulting damage.

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                  • #10
                    theLBC
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 6591

                    it's the clotshots.

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                    • #11
                      stonefly-2
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 4993

                      Originally posted by theLBC
                      it's the clotshots.


                      Oh maaaan!......how bout a spoiler alert next time?
                      What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                      Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                      https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                      I was born under a wandrin star.

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                      • #12
                        tundraboomer
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 993

                        Originally posted by JCHavasu
                        Correlation doesn't equal causation. But it doesn't "not" equal it either. The people that often shriek about correlation not equaling causation often ignore that correlation MAY indicate causation.
                        Doesn't matter until the correlation is proven by scientific methods. Correlation is supposed to send us down that path, not provide conclusions.

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                        • #13
                          WingDings
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 1278

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                          • #14
                            JCHavasu
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 672

                            Originally posted by tundraboomer
                            Doesn't matter until the correlation is proven by scientific methods. Correlation is supposed to send us down that path, not provide conclusions.
                            Exactly my point. Correlation should not be ignored or dismissed but investigated to determine if there is causation. Too often people identify correlation and feel comfortable dismissing it out of hand.
                            "You fickers are all cray cray in my opinion. Non of you have an iQ over 80." - SandyCrotchSurfer aka SandyEggoSurf

                            "News stories and the truth are a bit like fraternal twins. They are related but only vaguely resemble each other."

                            "The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich quick theory of life." - Theodore Roosevelt

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