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  • DaveInOroValley
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2010
    • 8965

    So I searched the forum and still no definitive answer

    on what the real story is on people that donate blood that have been vaccinated. Is it transferred in any way? Is it a good idea to have some of your own blood put aside in the bank?

    I can't donate anyway because of a specific drug I take and they say it could be bad for a woman that is pregnant. But anyway what's the latest info on the blood supply out there.

    Just have never seen a solid answer on this here or elsewhere.
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    TrappedinCalifornia
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2018
    • 8235

    From The Red Cross...

    COVID-19 Vaccine and Blood Donor Eligibility Information
    • There is no deferral time for eligible blood donors who are vaccinated with an inactivated or RNA based COVID-19 vaccine manufactured by AstraZeneca, Janssen/J&J, Moderna, Novavax, or Pfizer.
    • Eligible blood donors who received a live attenuated COVID-19 vaccine or do not know what type of COVID-19 vaccine they received must wait two weeks before giving blood.
    • If you have an appointment scheduled and need to change your donation date based on the above guidance, click here.
    • If you have further eligibility questions, please call 1-800-RED CROSS.

    Please note: The Red Cross, as an organization, is not a healthcare provider and is not administering COVID-19 vaccinations in the U.S. However, Red Cross volunteers who are medical professionals may work with local authorities to help give vaccinations if their state licenses permit them to do so. In addition, Red Cross teams are currently helping to vaccinate U.S. service members on bases around the world.
    I don't know how old this flyer is from the ABB, but it indicates you can donate blood if vaccinated, there is no differentiation between vaccinated/unvaccinated supplies, and 'no known risk' is presented by the vaccinated.

    Here is the FDA's guidance as of January... Updated Information for Blood Establishments Regarding the COVID-19 Pandemic and Blood Donation (though I'd hardly call 11 month old guidance 'updated').

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    • #3
      Epaphroditus
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2013
      • 4888

      If one doesn't look for risk one can safely claim "no known risk" - blissful ignorance.
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      • #4
        Big Chudungus
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2021
        • 2038

        When I donated blood a couple times the Red Cross about 3 years ago one of the questions was have you been to any countries in Europe particularly Norway and a few others. They didn't ask about visiting any 3rd world h*** holes in Africa or elsewhere.
        That's because mad cow infected beef may have been imported to Norway and a few other... Like decades ago. Spike protein similar to mad cow is one of the major "side effects" of vaxx.
        I would assume that the Red Cross like the rest of the medical establishment is now operating under strictly political agendas Regarding vacs safety versus dangers.... Regarding vac's safety versus dangers.
        I'm predicting that proof of vaccination will soon be required to donate blood for no reason.
        Red Cross told me my blood is also SVT virus free( Safe for newborn babies).
        As far as I can tell if you have SVT they don't bother telling you because it's so common.
        I ask them by the way what else do you test for that you did or did not tell me about just curious? Don't do me any favors doing my thinking for me just text or email me my full blood report just for laughs.
        They were like oh we've got this great app and you can see all the things that we did with your blood and what it got sent to et cetera. So you can feel good about yourself or something.
        I told them I don't care what they do with my blood after it's out of my body I don't care if they give it to teenage vampire chicks. They seemed too stupid to understand the point of my question.
        They send me letters and texts how desperate they need by blood and say tell me it's an emergency and they will give me a $10 target gift certificate.

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        • #5
          Big Chudungus
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2021
          • 2038

          Everyone is still stonewalling on the blood clot issue. Seems likely they do not Flash form but rather start forming over a period of time thus it seems perfectly likely that you could start getting blood clots via transfused blood and let's see transfusion processing process kills that aspect of vaccine.

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          • #6
            HibikiR
            Senior Member
            • May 2014
            • 2417

            Originally posted by Big Chudungus
            Spike protein similar to mad cow is one of the major "side effects" of vaxx.
            Spike protein while bad doesn't have any real similarity to prion diseases like Mad Cow, Kuru, or Creutzfeldt Jakob.

            If you spent time on this forum, then you know that the anti-vaxxers' favorite headline is "person dies suddenly". Sudden death is not a feature of prion diseases because it's a long, drawn-out process of increasing madness towards a not so sudden death. Spike protein also requires mRNA to replicate, hence the jab. Prion disease does not require mRNA nor DNA to replicate, it is a unique feature of prion disease.
            Last edited by HibikiR; 11-26-2022, 10:59 PM.

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              gcvt
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              • Apr 2008
              • 13290

              Shortly before I moved from Vegas to Orlando, I had some chest pain one night and went to the ER just to get checked out. Everything was fine, but during the admission process they asked me if I would accept blood from a vaccinated person if it was a case of life and death
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              • #8
                Old4eyes
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 1749

                "If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate."

                And after that they mention there is no deferral time and go on to list the manufacturers of the jab. So I guess with the guesses the FDA has on hand (or the bribe in the pocket), that the FDA is doing a CYA in case down the line when a given formula has been proven to be detrimental, they can do a "recall?"
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                • #9
                  Sequencer60
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 530

                  I donate every 8-10 weeks, never needed to provide any vaccination information whatsoever, other than the 1 question asking if you've been vaccinated.

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                  • #10
                    DaveInOroValley
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                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 8965

                    Thank you for all the info.
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                    • #11
                      Wherryj
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                      • Mar 2010
                      • 11085

                      Originally posted by HibikiR
                      Spike protein while bad doesn't have any real similarity to prion diseases like Mad Cow, Kuru, or Creutzfeldt Jakob.

                      If you spent time on this forum, then you know that the anti-vaxxers' favorite headline is "person dies suddenly". Sudden death is not a feature of prion diseases because it's a long, drawn-out process of increasing madness towards a not so sudden death. Spike protein also requires mRNA to replicate, hence the jab. Prion disease does not require mRNA nor DNA to replicate, it is a unique feature of prion disease.
                      True. Prion disease is thought to be caused by abnormally "folded" proteins that are capable of self-replication. Spike protein is inflammatory and to our knowledge not capable of self-replication so it requires mRNA vaccines to do so. The issue is that we don't know how long the mRNA will signal for coding spike protein or where it will end up in any given individual.
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                      • #12
                        HibikiR
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 2417

                        Originally posted by Wherryj
                        True. Prion disease is thought to be caused by abnormally "folded" proteins that are capable of self-replication. Spike protein is inflammatory and to our knowledge not capable of self-replication so it requires mRNA vaccines/viruses to do so. The issue is that we don't know how long the mRNA will signal for coding spike protein or where it will end up in any given individual.
                        How long isn't that big of a deal, mRNA degradation is a normal part of cell function since we make and degrade mRNA all the time to do other things.

                        Where it ends up is an entirely valid concern since lipid nanoparticles have no targeting system like viruses do.

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                        • #13
                          Term
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 952

                          Originally posted by HibikiR
                          If you spent time on this forum, then you know that the anti-vaxxers' favorite headline is "person dies suddenly".
                          I am pro vax but Anti-EXPERIMENTAL VAX.

                          why do you pro vaxxer's completely ignore the experimental part?
                          Last edited by Term; 11-29-2022, 12:53 PM.
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                          • #14
                            stonefly-2
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                            • Mar 2013
                            • 4993

                            Originally posted by Term
                            I am pro vax but Anti-EXPERIMENTAL VAX.

                            why do you pro vaxxer's completely ignore the experimental part?

                            Because there's no turning back.
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                            • #15
                              HibikiR
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2014
                              • 2417

                              Originally posted by Term
                              I am pro vax but Anti-EXPERIMENTAL VAX.

                              why do you pro vaxxer's completely ignore the experimental part?
                              I'm ahead of the curve when it comes to the conspiracy theories. If the TFH notions are to be believed, the "experiment" will be secretly put into all the shots because the evil depopulation cabal is determined to get you. At that point, qualifiers like "Anti-EXPERIMANTAL VAX" will cease to have any practical meaning.

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