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  • Marauder2003
    Waiting for Abs
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Aug 2010
    • 2997

    mRNA question

    Is the problem with the Covid vaccine the Covid part or the mRNA part?

    I ask this because I have just recently heard about a cancer treatment using mRNA technology.
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  • #2
    drclark
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 1776

    I have no idea.

    I think a big question is how long mrna persists in your body and how long it continues to make the spike protein?

    If the mrna can be reverse transcribed in to your cell DNA, do you make it "forever"

    Its not clear to me if mrna jab causes cells to make a free floating spike that circulates everywhere as a Rouge protein molecule (similar to mad cow) or if the spikes remain attached to the cell that was induced to mfgr them.

    So not clear to me if the danger is the spike protein (that you would be exposed to anyway if you got covid) or the mrna technique that tricks your body to make it.

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    • #3
      stix213
      AKA: Joe Censored
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2009
      • 18998

      There's a lot of evidence that the part of the virus which causes disease is the spike protein. The vaccine is designed to help your body manufacture the spike protein in large quantities.

      The vaccine enters your cells and the spike protein is produced, and is intended to end up on the surface of the cells. Your immune system recognizes the cell as foreign because of the spike protein, and destroys the cell. So the vaccine intentionally results in an autoimmune like outcome with the destruction of millions of cells. Which cells? Well they say it stays in your arm, but heart inflammation is a common side effect. That is because the vaccine enters your heart cells and your immune system is destroying those cells.

      There's likely destruction of cells across your body, and that is probably why there's such a wide variety of side effects reported.
      Last edited by stix213; 10-13-2022, 11:34 AM.

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      • #4
        Bukowski
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 810

        mRNA treatments show a lot of promise for cancer. Here are a couple of links that go through how they work:

        Messenger RNA (abbreviated mRNA) is a type of single-stranded RNA involved in protein synthesis.


        mRNA vaccines inject cells with instructions to generate a protein that is normally found on the surface of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.
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        • #5
          sigfan91
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2009
          • 11084

          Originally posted by stix213
          There's a lot of evidence that the part of the virus which causes disease is the spike protein. The vaccine is designed to help your body manufacture the spike protein in large quantities.

          The vaccine enters your cells and the spike protein is produced, and is intended to end up on the surface of the cells. Your immune system recognizes the cell as foreign because of the spike protein, and destroys the cell. So the vaccine intentionally results in an autoimmune like outcome with the destruction of millions of cells. Which cells? Well they say it stays in your arm, but heart inflammation is a common side effect. That is because the vaccine enters your heart cells and your immune system is destroying those cells.

          There's likely destruction of cells across your body, and that is probably why there's such a wide variety of side effects reported.

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          • #6
            2shotjoe
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            • Feb 2011
            • 26546

            There's no covid in the vaccine, but there's HIV proteins.

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            • #7
              Marauder2003
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              • Aug 2010
              • 2997

              This seems to refute one 0f the articles.





              Originally posted by Bukowski
              mRNA treatments show a lot of promise for cancer. Here are a couple of links that go through how they work:

              Messenger RNA (abbreviated mRNA) is a type of single-stranded RNA involved in protein synthesis.


              https://www.genome.gov/about-genomic...-mRNA-Vaccines
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              • #8
                WarBoyNux
                • Jul 2015
                • 1267

                1. Spike protein is bad.
                2. mRNA vax's are bad.

                Novavax removes the mRNA portion, but still has the bad spike proteins.

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                • #9
                  HibikiR
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 2418

                  Originally posted by sigfan91
                  Imagine if the vaccine turned pancreatic cells into a “target” for the immune system to practice on. Boom! Type 1 Diabetes. Don’t ask how I know.
                  How do you know?


                  Originally posted by 2shotjoe
                  There's no covid in the vaccine, but there's HIV proteins.

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                  That was some trial vaccine that never made it past small scale human trials and was shelved in Queensland, Australia about two years ago IIRC.
                  Last edited by HibikiR; 10-13-2022, 4:56 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Beelzy
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 9224

                    Originally posted by Marauder2003
                    Is the problem with the Covid vaccine the Covid part or the mRNA part?

                    I ask this because I have just recently heard about a cancer treatment using mRNA technology.
                    Probably when it's terminal cancer and it has already destroyed vital organs, nothing much to lose save for the possible Manageable Myocarditis.

                    I read Nanobots were being experimented with for cancer treatment....5 years ago.
                    So.....I'm guessing they are piggy backing. But I'm only a tinfoil hat salesman.
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                    • #11
                      Marauder2003
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                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2997

                      I am holding out for one of those beds they had on Elysium.
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                      • #12
                        Bukowski
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 810

                        Originally posted by Marauder2003
                        This seems to refute one 0f the articles.

                        https://en.protothema.gr/pfizer-mrna...h-study-finds/
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                        • #13
                          gimebakmybulits
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                          • Feb 2007
                          • 992

                          Originally posted by 2shotjoe
                          There's no covid in the vaccine, but there's HIV proteins.

                          Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk
                          Maybe the HIV inserts in the virus was what you were thinking of?

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                          • #14
                            2shotjoe
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                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 26546

                            Originally posted by gimebakmybulits
                            Maybe the HIV inserts in the virus was what you were thinking of?

                            https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...01.30.927871v2
                            not sure. someone here had a thread on it. been a while.
                            Originally posted by Kestryll
                            ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
                            Originally posted by Libertarian777
                            ...Don't pick either side....

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                            • #15
                              LBDamned
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 19040

                              If you have cancer, desperation (for lack of better description) warrants potential risks... its a reactionary process to a problem.

                              That's much different from introducing foreign substance to a healthy body under the guise of remaining healthy.
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