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  • c good
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2621

    Anyone got the Novavax?

    If so. Anything to report? Good or bad? Thx...
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    turbolxstang
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2020
    • 675

    Why?

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      Foothills
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 918

      Works a lot better than the mRNA version without the side effects. Works aginst this Omicron stuff, too.

      Biotech company Novavax has revealed its COVID-19 vaccine can generate effective immune responses against all circulating Omicron variants. The unexpected data was delivered to an advisory panel convened by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to recommend booster vaccine plans for later this…
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        Jeffjohns
        Banned
        • Dec 2021
        • 188

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          Foothills
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 918

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            hunterb
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jun 2011
            • 3794

            Originally posted by Jeffjohns
            If you think you need to take a shot for something that’s the same as the flu you need to reevaluate yourself there sir

            Stop watching TV because you would’ve been dead already if you had something to worry about even if you had underlining conditions are ready. Yes you have been dead already so stop watching TV there’s nothing to fear of

            There is absolutely no reason you could give that you need to take the shot, no reason at all it is not needed that’s all TV stuff bro
            At risk groups should get vaxxed, especially that the Novavax non-mRNA vaccine is out. Diabetics, over age 75, obese, etc, should consider it seriously.

            Young and healthy should not IMO.
            Last edited by hunterb; 07-30-2022, 12:10 AM.
            Originally posted by johnthomas
            ...The hardest part getting rid of crap is getting started.

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              Jeffjohns
              Banned
              • Dec 2021
              • 188

              Originally posted by hunterb
              At risk groups should get vaxxed, especially that the Novavax non-mRNA vaccine is out. Diabetics, over age 75, obese, etc, should consider it seriously.

              Young and healthy should not IMO.

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                anthonyca
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2008
                • 6316

                Novavax injects you with the patented original spike protein which is cytotoxic. That spike protein has been mutated out current virus that is circulating. Why would anyone take this?
                https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

                Originally posted by Wherryj
                I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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                  Foothills
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 918

                  Originally posted by anthonyca
                  Novavax injects you with the patented original spike protein which is cytotoxic. That spike protein has been mutated out current virus that is circulating. Why would anyone take this?
                  The best hypothesis I've seen is that the tips of the spike proteins are what mutated. Since the mRNA vaccines are based on the tips of the spike only, that's why they don't work nearly as well as they used to.

                  Novavax used the entire spike. It's basically the same process that is used for the Hepatitis B vaccine. And based on what we've seen so far, it has held up well against first Delta and now Omicron.

                  But that's the best explanation I've heard for the specific mechanism that is resulting in different performance.

                  Everyone has a different risk tolerance. Being in the study, I took seriously the goal of testing this thing. So I've been out and about in crowds without a mask for more than a year and a half. My fear level has been zero for a year. I'm so confident this vaccine works that I volunteer to sit with my exposed friends since I'm not vulnerable to this thing. Still haven't caught it. A bunch of my mRNA-vaccinated friends have.

                  I really don't think they should coerce people to get it.

                  Most health care workers are required to get the Hep B vaccine. There's just too much occupational risk from a needle stick. You might simply be picking up some trash somewhere and someone left a needle there. I'd rather have the protection so I can take other risks.
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                    gimebakmybulits
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 992

                    Originally posted by Foothills
                    The best hypothesis I've seen is that the tips of the spike proteins are what mutated. Since the mRNA vaccines are based on the tips of the spike only, that's why they don't work nearly as well as they used to.

                    Novavax used the entire spike. It's basically the same process that is used for the Hepatitis B vaccine. And based on what we've seen so far, it has held up well against first Delta and now Omicron.

                    But that's the best explanation I've heard for the specific mechanism that is resulting in different performance.

                    Everyone has a different risk tolerance. Being in the study, I took seriously the goal of testing this thing. So I've been out and about in crowds without a mask for more than a year and a half. My fear level has been zero for a year. I'm so confident this vaccine works that I volunteer to sit with my exposed friends since I'm not vulnerable to this thing. Still haven't caught it. A bunch of my mRNA-vaccinated friends have.

                    I really don't think they should coerce people to get it.

                    Most health care workers are required to get the Hep B vaccine. There's just too much occupational risk from a needle stick. You might simply be picking up some trash somewhere and someone left a needle there. I'd rather have the protection so I can take other risks.
                    I'd recommend you do some actual research on the way the immune system works and stop listening to people who have a financial interest in convincing you to take something that doesn't work.
                    "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."
                    George Washington

                    "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
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                    • #11
                      sl0re10
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7242

                      hunterb

                      I think we've hit the point where the facts say that isn't true. You have better odds of surviving COVID, if high risk, with hydroxychloroquine et all. Don't know about nova though. Havent read anything yet.

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                      • #12
                        Rakso
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2019
                        • 1323

                        Originally posted by c good
                        If so. Anything to report? Good or bad? Thx...
                        What's that?

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                        • #13
                          Scota4570
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 1719

                          So many people believe that the virus is the same as it always was. That is wrong. It is different now. IT is not nearly as dangerous. It now spreads easily and causes few problems. As of now, over 95% of us have antibodies. Antibodies from natural infections are far superior in their protective properties. The current vax only lasts a month or so. Natural antibodies last for years. The vaccines are for the Wuhan strain, which has been gone for YEARS. The protective effect against BA-5 is extremely minimal.
                          Risk assessment seems to be difficult for many people. The risk of vax is now greater than contracting BA-5. The current strain is not very dangerous anyway. "Cases" is a BS metric. Test positivity is even more useless. The rate of deaths with covid is currently 18K per year. That is very low by historical flu standards. We should look at deaths from covid. We are not allowed to know how many people are actually killed by covid in the US.

                          Bottom line, the top levels of people who are promoting on-going vaccinations want you dead. That should be a clue.

                          Next up will be mandatory monkey pox vaccines. Wait for it....
                          Last edited by Scota4570; 08-02-2022, 3:29 PM. Reason: typos

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                          • #14
                            OlderThanDirt
                            FUBAR
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 5809

                            We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
                            Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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                              2shotjoe
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 26474

                              was talking to my younger brother, he was he got novavax in the early 2021 trials. no side effects but he's less commie and didn't attack me for liking Trump. so a good side effect, lol. he got black pilled.
                              Originally posted by Kestryll
                              ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
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                              ...Don't pick either side....

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