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  • harbormaster
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2017
    • 5893

    Wuhan Flu: chi-na not to blame

    The COVID-19-causing coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, likely first spread to humans from animals in two separate transmission events in a Wuhan market in late November 2019, according to a pair of analyses by international teams co-led by Scripps Research scientists.


    The lame stream will go into over drive now at the bequest of their chi-com masters and blame the wuhan market instead of the lab.
    1. Compared to what?
    2. At what cost?
    3. What hard evidence do you have?

    T.S. debunking the Left in 3 simple questions.
  • #2
    Paul_R
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2011
    • 2847

    Fear is a social disease

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    • #3
      SAN compnerd
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • May 2009
      • 4725

      So the fact that the virus contains a patented gene sequence which Moderna holds is not evidence of lab creation? I got a bridge to sell too.
      "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

      Originally posted by SAN compnerd
      When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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      • #4
        p7m8jg
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 1914

        And vaccines will totally prevent from getting the Rona.

        NOT.

        But they'd never lie to us...

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        • #5
          Wherryj
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2010
          • 11085

          Originally posted by SAN compnerd
          So the fact that the virus contains a patented gene sequence which Moderna holds is not evidence of lab creation? I got a bridge to sell too.
          There are also DNA sequences known to be used for splicing genes into a DNA strand. They occur almost never in nature, so they make sequence insertion not only easy but easy to see if the insertion "took" (if it worked). You just check the sample for that particular series of codons and if present, the insertion worked, if absent it failed.

          The chances that SARS-Cov-2 has these sequences naturally are already astronomical. Add in the patented sequences and you are really building an unlikely event.



          NOW put that all together with the fact that the virus has an epicenter that just HAPPENS to be in the same town as China's own military virology lab, a lab that had published papers about their work on bat coronaviruses and that subsequent email leaks have indicated were working on gain of function for this specific virus, and at the same time China was working to perfect a vaccine against this very virus probably in the event that they decided to launch it upon the world...

          Sure, it's all just a big coincidence. I'm sure it came from that wet market...
          "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
          -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
          "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
          I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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          • #6
            Spanky8601
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 2253

            Originally posted by Wherryj
            There are also DNA sequences known to be used for splicing genes into a DNA strand. They occur almost never in nature, so they make sequence insertion not only easy but easy to see if the insertion "took" (if it worked). You just check the sample for that particular series of codons and if present, the insertion worked, if absent it failed.

            The chances that SARS-Cov-2 has these sequences naturally are already astronomical. Add in the patented sequences and you are really building an unlikely event.



            NOW put that all together with the fact that the virus has an epicenter that just HAPPENS to be in the same town as China's own military virology lab, a lab that had published papers about their work on bat coronaviruses and that subsequent email leaks have indicated were working on gain of function for this specific virus, and at the same time China was working to perfect a vaccine against this very virus probably in the event that they decided to launch it upon the world...

            Sure, it's all just a big coincidence. I'm sure it came from that wet market...

            WUT.... The peasants should not be allowed to understand science. Much less let others know.
            May I always be the type of person my dog thinks I am

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            • #7
              Dirtlaw
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2018
              • 3480

              Trump planned it all.

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              • #8
                Scota4570
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2006
                • 1719

                It is obvious that China with funding from the US created C19 in the Wuhan lab. It appears to have been consigned by the our CDC/NIH to be made in Wuhan. The release may have been an accident maybe not. The records in Wuhan were destroyed when C19 began to spread.

                China controls American politics, our media, and our economy. They control what the mainstream media is allowed to publish and what most of what our politicians say and do.

                IF we had honest politicians then they would have to admit the truth. IF the truth were generally known then unleashing a bioweapon would be an act of war. We would then be backed into a corner to make retaliatory strikes. We would probably loose a war with China. More importantly the graft to our politicians would stop.

                IF you were an extreme green Marxist then culling the population via manufactured flu is a great idea. Since the people who control our government are green Marxists, and on the take from China, it seems probable that they were complicit.

                No shut up and take their vaccine, or else.
                Last edited by Scota4570; 07-27-2022, 2:19 PM.

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                • #9
                  balgor
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1553



                  The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the early epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic

                  Understanding how severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) emerged in 2019 is critical to preventing zoonotic outbreaks before they become the next pandemic. The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, China, was identified as a likely source of cases in early reports but later this conclusion became controversial. We show the earliest known COVID-19 cases from December 2019, including those without reported direct links, were geographically centered on this market. We report that live SARS-CoV-2 susceptible mammals were sold at the market in late 2019 and, within the market, SARS-CoV-2-positive environmental samples were spatially associated with vendors selling live mammals. While there is insufficient evidence to define upstream events, and exact circumstances remain obscure, our analyses indicate that the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 occurred via the live wildlife trade in China, and show that the Huanan market was the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic.



                  The molecular epidemiology of multiple zoonotic origins of SARS-CoV-2

                  Understanding the circumstances that lead to pandemics is important for their prevention. Here, we analyze the genomic diversity of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) early in the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic. We show that SARS-CoV-2 genomic diversity before February 2020 likely comprised only two distinct viral lineages, denoted A and B. Phylodynamic rooting methods, coupled with epidemic simulations, reveal that these lineages were the result of at least two separate cross-species transmission events into humans. The first zoonotic transmission likely involved lineage B viruses around 18 November 2019 (23 October–8 December), while the separate introduction of lineage A likely occurred within weeks of this event. These findings indicate that it is unlikely that SARS-CoV-2 circulated widely in humans prior to November 2019 and define the narrow window between when SARS-CoV-2 first jumped into humans and when the first cases of COVID-19 were reported. As with other coronaviruses, SARS-CoV-2 emergence likely resulted from multiple zoonotic events.


                  Go ahead and read the papers and critique what you disagree with....
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                  • #10
                    gimebakmybulits
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 992

                    Originally posted by balgor
                    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715

                    The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the early epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic

                    Understanding how severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) emerged in 2019 is critical to preventing zoonotic outbreaks before they become the next pandemic. The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, China, was identified as a likely source of cases in early reports but later this conclusion became controversial. We show the earliest known COVID-19 cases from December 2019, including those without reported direct links, were geographically centered on this market. We report that live SARS-CoV-2 susceptible mammals were sold at the market in late 2019 and, within the market, SARS-CoV-2-positive environmental samples were spatially associated with vendors selling live mammals. While there is insufficient evidence to define upstream events, and exact circumstances remain obscure, our analyses indicate that the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 occurred via the live wildlife trade in China, and show that the Huanan market was the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic.

                    As with other coronaviruses, SARS-CoV-2 emergence likely resulted from multiple zoonotic events.


                    Go ahead and read the papers and critique what you disagree with....
                    You don't even understand what you are posting...... But... No it didn't come from the wildlife market. It came from the lab in Wuhan, go back to your room and play with the new toy mommy got you.
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                    • #11
                      balgor
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1553

                      Originally posted by gimebakmybulits
                      You don't even understand what you are posting...... But... No it didn't come from the wildlife market. It came from the lab in Wuhan, go back to your room and play with the new toy mommy got you.
                      Ok, please explain what part of the papers you disagree with and why? Try and be specific. I know one of the authors personally and have discussed it with them.
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                      • #12
                        Scota4570
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 1719

                        "The Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the early epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic"

                        Preposterous.............



                        The market is 8.6 miles from the virology lab. It is a sure bet that lab employees shopped a the market. Saying the epicenter was in the city is plausible. Saying it happened at a particular place in the city is just silly. Since the genetic sequence of the virus proves artificial manipulation the seafood market excuse is laughable. News alert, the Chinese government is full of pathological liars.
                        Last edited by Scota4570; 07-27-2022, 5:09 PM.

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                        • #13
                          gimebakmybulits
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 992

                          Originally posted by balgor
                          Ok, please explain what part of the papers you disagree with and why? Try and be specific. I know one of the authors personally and have discussed it with them.
                          Oh, so you work in the male room at Scripps? Is yer "buddy" the same clown that said that the beach is one of the most dangerous places because wave action would aerosolize the virus..... BTW yer "buddy" is an assclown of epic proportion, bought and paid for by NIH.
                          As for my disagreement.... The virus was extremely stable (due to the engineering) until the vaccine trials started which Trevor Bedford showed in his research.....wild viruses are not, so put your knee pads back on and get back to work... the Scripps male room needs you.
                          "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."
                          George Washington

                          "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
                          Thomas Jefferson

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