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  • sd_shooter
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 13581

    Garbage in, Garbage out. US 'hospitalization' numbers to be revised.

    This is why we cannot trust any of the data coming out of the CDC/FDA/NIH. Everyone could see that the numbers in the US had been manipulated when comparing against more honest countries. Now the hospitalization figures are going to be revised by separating "with covid" from "because of covid."

    It is long overdue. It also casts doubt on the many "studies" and "trials" that were used to support the vaccine and mask mandates.



  • #2
    ibanezfoo
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Apr 2007
    • 11702

    Been trying to say it for how long now? This is ASRs Achilles heel...
    vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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    • #3
      Scota4570
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2006
      • 1719

      It is nice to see some common sense is finally rearing it's ugly head.

      Recalculating the hospitalization rate will not be easy, said Eric Topol, a professor of molecular medicine at Scripps Research and former advisory board member of the Covid Tracking Project, a team that worked to collect and synthesize local Covid-19 data during the peak of the pandemic.

      “You need a panel of experts to review the cases to adjudicate if a hospitalization is for a person who came in for Covid or with Covid,” Topol said. “It's not something that is coded in the chart. A lot of people will say an individual came in with Covid, but it was actually the Covid that exacerbated the lung or heart disease.”


      Sorry, it's not hard at all. If you were admitted to the hospital because of something other than covid symptoms you are not a covid case....simple.

      I do know for fact that hospitals repeatedly test people until they get a positive test. At that point they get extra "Brandon Bucks". The tests have a significant number of false positives. A false positive is inevitable. It is in their own interest to fake case numbers, so they do.

      The incentive for hospitals to lie is a result of the socialization of medicine. IF we were paying as individuals this would not be a problem. This is another case where more government is the problem.

      We have an election coming up. The Dems are in serious trouble. The CDC is changing the metrics to lower cases counts. They want to declare victory over covid to retain power.

      Last edited by Scota4570; 02-09-2022, 12:21 PM.

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      • #4
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        • Nov 2011
        • 1349

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        • #5
          SanDiego619
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2013
          • 11925

          No no no!

          Trust the DATA!! The DATA is like the BIBLE!!!!! Trust the data and use it to make decisions about jabbing kids!!
          Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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          • #6
            sd_shooter
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2008
            • 13581

            Originally posted by SanDiego619
            No no no!

            Trust the DATA!! The DATA is like the BIBLE!!!!! Trust the data and use it to make decisions about jabbing kids!!
            And:
            - Do you have any studies to show otherwise? You have no evidence.
            - So you have evidence? It is not peer reviewed. Discarded!
            - Anecdotal evidence is not admissible
            - Do you think this is some global conspiracy? The figures do not lie!
            - The vaccine was indeed 95% effective when it was first created. You misunderstand.
            - Why would Pfizer/Moderna/JJ be motivated to change the data? It's just a study.
            - Covid is dangerous for children, one of the biggest risks today. Look at the numbers!

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            • #7
              Scota4570
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2006
              • 1719

              Health Commissioner Judy Persichilli announced today that the state has received reports of four Covid-related deaths among children in the month since


              This kind of nonsense is what tricks soccer moms into being afraid.

              Closer to the truth:


              Only 498 children died from COVID between 2020 and 2021 — this is compared to the 13,075 kids who have died from other unexpected causes.

              We know that the vast majority of them who died of covid were already seriously ill for other reasons, comorbidities.

              Fauci recently admitted that most of the covid hospitalized children are there for other reasons and have no covid symptoms. I would guess that only a few healthy children have died of covid so far.

              Now, today, omicron, I doubt we will have any covid deaths of healthy children going forward. Children will have vaccine related deaths and illness. How many? We are not allowed to know, it is deliberately not being tracked.
              Last edited by Scota4570; 02-09-2022, 3:59 PM.

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              • #8
                bigbossman
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                • Dec 2012
                • 11017

                Bigmike82 is not going to be happy about this.
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                • #9
                  sd_shooter
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 13581

                  Originally posted by bigbossman
                  Bigmike82 is not going to be happy about this.
                  Or duracell... or balgor... or ASR... Their brand of #science shattered on the rocky shoals of reality

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                  • #10
                    SanDiego619
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 11925

                    Originally posted by sd_shooter
                    Or duracell... or balgor... or ASR... Their brand of #science shattered on the rocky shoals of reality
                    Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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                    • #11
                      SchooBaka
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1141

                      When Dr. Debra Birx said they would not be distinguishing between those who died of covid vs those who died with covid, way back in april 2020? That's when I stopped trusting the numbers.
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                      • #12
                        SWalt
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 8528

                        “You need a panel of experts to review the cases to adjudicate if a hospitalization is for a person who came in for Covid or with Covid,” Topol said. “It's not something that is coded in the chart. A lot of people will say an individual came in with Covid, but it was actually the Covid that exacerbated the lung or heart disease.”
                        Really? A panel of experts? No, the kid who came in with a broken arm and tested positive for COVID didn't go there because of COVID. Same goes for the guy who crashed his motorcycle, sent to the hospital and finds out he has COVID. What was the rate of non symptomatic? 60%? Yeah, none of them who tested positive in a hospital were they for COVID.
                        ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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