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  • Palmaris
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2009
    • 6490

    CDC admitted natural immunity superiority.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/...cid=mm7104e1_w Or my title is misleading?
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    Palmaris
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2009
    • 6490

    New data show those who recovered from Covid-19 were less likely than vaccinated people to get infected during the Delta wave. But the data contain caveats that stress the value of vaccination, even with prior infection, experts said.
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    • #3
      ibanezfoo
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Apr 2007
      • 12339

      *Shocking I tell you. Shocking!
























      *Not really shocking. We've been saying this stuff since day one but what do we know? Just a bunch of armchair internet doctors who amazingly have an awesome track record of being correct.
      vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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      • #4
        Palmaris
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2009
        • 6490

        Originally posted by ibanezfoo
        *Shocking I tell you. Shocking!

        *Not really shocking. We've been saying this stuff since day one but what do we know? Just a bunch of armchair internet doctors who amazingly have an awesome track record of being correct.
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        • #5
          sd_shooter
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2008
          • 14273

          I think your title is indeed correct.

          Quote from the CDC report:
          Before Delta became the predominant variant in June, case rates were higher among persons who survived a previous infection than persons who were vaccinated alone. By early October, persons who survived a previous infection had lower case rates than persons who were vaccinated alone.

          However they still push the vax because per their thinking it's the least risky approach. (ie. better to be vaxxed and catch covid than to just handle it with no protection.) Of course I disagree. The Elderly/Sick/Obese should consider the vax since they're in the only meaningful risk group, everyone else should treat this like the common cold.

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          • #6
            Notpc
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2016
            • 3858

            I am starting to lose faith in this "natural immunity" thing. Many people are getting multiple infections of covid, both vaxxed and unvaxxed. I am reaching the end of my first go around with covid, probably the omicron version. Guess time will tell...............
            "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..."
            Roy Batty

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            • #7
              Deadon
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2010
              • 9975

              We had alpha and had omicron. Omicron is said to get around natural immunity. Is what it is. Omicron is weak or was for us.
              Lions not sheep.

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              • #8
                sbo80
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 2265

                "follow the science" was always a diversionary statement. In the real world, there's practical limitations to it. An honest science answer would be 100% full complete quarantine for 100% of people, period. Scientifically that would work great. It's also unrealistic. Though I disagree with pretty much everything the gov't is doing, I understand some of the reasons. They first said don't worry about masks because the truth was there just weren't enough to go around, and there would be a panic run. So they slow rolled that messaging on purpose. I can fully believe true immunity is better. But it would be impossible to figure out who that is, who does and doesn't need shots etc. So it's just simpler to have everyone get the shot, as they figure it would be better to have maximum vax protection (what they consider protection), than to have a weird system with some people naturally immune, some vaxxed, and a probably huge third group that thinks they had covid but can't confirm but in truth are neither. It's just reality. From government's perspective, who desires control above all else (rough paraphrase from Lord of the Rings), the third option is not acceptable even if it's the right one for a free society. And it looks like that will end up the status quo anyway after the SC dumping on the fed mandate.

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                • #9
                  sd_shooter
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 14273

                  Originally posted by Notpc
                  I am starting to lose faith in this "natural immunity" thing. Many people are getting multiple infections of covid, both vaxxed and unvaxxed. I am reaching the end of my first go around with covid, probably the omicron version. Guess time will tell...............
                  Anyone completely immune to the Flu? Common cold?

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                  • #10
                    The Gleam
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 13273

                    Originally posted by Notpc
                    I am starting to lose faith in this "natural immunity" thing. Many people are getting multiple infections of covid, both vaxxed and unvaxxed. I am reaching the end of my first go around with covid, probably the omicron version. Guess time will tell...............
                    Natural Immunity was never designed to prevent you from getting COVID-19 - nobody ever said it was 100% effective - it was only meant to lessen the severity of the symptoms.

                    (As written on the third tablet that Moses dropped, and shuffled the broken pieces into the brush with his foot, hoping nobody would notice.)

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                    Originally posted by Librarian
                    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                    • #11
                      Notpc
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 3858

                      But reinfected only weeks apart?
                      "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..."
                      Roy Batty

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                      • #12
                        Rickrock1
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 5158

                        Originally posted by Notpc
                        I am starting to lose faith in this "natural immunity" thing. Many people are getting multiple infections of covid, both vaxxed and unvaxxed. I am reaching the end of my first go around with covid, probably the omicron version. Guess time will tell...............
                        Reminder different strains of the flu come every year. We are now in year 3
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                        • #13
                          The Gleam
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 13273

                          Originally posted by Notpc
                          But reinfected only weeks apart?
                          Should have worn a condom.

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                          Originally posted by Librarian
                          What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                          If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                          • #14
                            ibanezfoo
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 12339

                            Originally posted by Notpc
                            I am starting to lose faith in this "natural immunity" thing. Many people are getting multiple infections of covid, both vaxxed and unvaxxed. I am reaching the end of my first go around with covid, probably the omicron version. Guess time will tell...............
                            vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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                            • #15
                              wilit
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 5212

                              I travel to Europe a lot for work and in the countries with a Covid Passport requirement to sit and eat or enter public buildings accept proof of previous infection. Makes sense to me, natural immunity results in the same goal as being vaxxed.
                              "If a man hasn't found something worth dying for, he isn't fit to live." - Martin Luther King Jr.
                              "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin
                              "You have to be willing to swing your nuts like a deadblow hammer to put these jackasses in their place." - AJAX22
                              "The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry." - William F Buckley Jr.
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