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  • #16
    Deadon
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2010
    • 9975

    They also changed the quarantine time from 10 days to 5 days. I think they just want to spread it as fast as they can now.
    Lions not sheep.

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    • #17
      anthonyca
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2008
      • 6316

      Originally posted by Deadon
      They also changed the quarantine time from 10 days to 5 days. I think they just want to spread it as fast as they can now.
      And pjabbed positive hospital workers required to work while un jabbed can't work.
      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

      Originally posted by Wherryj
      I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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      • #18
        Deadon
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        • Aug 2010
        • 9975

        ^^^^ crazy world isn't it?
        Lions not sheep.

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        • #19
          as_rocketman
          CGSSA Leader
          • Jan 2011
          • 3057

          Originally posted by Deadon
          They also changed the quarantine time from 10 days to 5 days. I think they just want to spread it as fast as they can now.
          This actually gets very messy. CDC has recommended five day quarantine, but acknowledges that's a balance between prevention and utility -- they know perfectly well transmission beyond five days is possible, just not as likely. This is an attempt to split the difference with an unpopular directive, and as usual when one tries to compromise, it makes no one happy.

          These recommendations sometimes propagate slowly to California schools. CalOSHA mostly concurs but points out that the CDC directive can be overridden locally. In LA County, positive cases follow county isolation orders, meaning if asymptomatic and if a negative test is achieved, you can go back out after five days -- but must stay masked indoors and out for ten days. Lacking that negative test, which is the usual situation, the requirement is still ten days of isolation. In either case, that individual is still considered infectious from test date -2 days / +10 days, even under current guidance.

          Similarly, under recently revised rules, those who are exposed only have to quarantine for five days iff they provide a negative test at the end.

          You basically have to be a lawyer to navigate this stuff accurately. Staying compliant has been a serious challenge.
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          • #20
            Scota4570
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2006
            • 1727

            It is bizarre to me that most people think they can stop omicron with quarantines, masks and testing. That ship sailed when the original strain escaped Wuhan. The point of these measure was to prevent over running the hospitals. That is not a possibility with Omicron. Taking these countermeasures is pointless.

            We will all be or have been exposed. There is no escape. The current strain is not particularly dangerous. It is time to stop acting like scared children.

            Unfortunately the people in charge are not particularly intelligent, moral, or respectful of human rights. So there you go.

            Take your zinc, C, and D. Get outside exercise regularly, Eat good food, don't drink. Lower your stress. That is most of what an individual can do to stack the odds.

            I am eager to see the risk reward analysis for mRNA vax vs Omicron. My money is that the vaccine is more dangerous than omicron for the vast majority of healthy people. Maybe we will be allowed to know in my lifespan.

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            • #21
              Dan_Eastvale
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2013
              • 10604

              Can get the disease over and over again. Can’t stop it.

              A terrified world forever
              Permanent restrictions
              Not Good

              Lift all mandates.
              Live as we have lived for 30,000 years

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              • #22
                Ivanhoe
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 577

                9 teachers out at my wife's school - all vaxxed. Yet only the unvaxxed are required to test each week. F o L L O W T he S c I E n Ce...not

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                • #23
                  Deadon
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 9975

                  Rocketman, no neg test required here. Just five days and done. I'll see if I can find the email in my delete box.
                  Lions not sheep.

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                  • #24
                    as_rocketman
                    CGSSA Leader
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 3057

                    Originally posted by Deadon
                    Rocketman, no neg test required here. Just five days and done. I'll see if I can find the email in my delete box.
                    I fully expect regulations to be different from state to state, and in some cases, even particular to the city. Where I live (Pasadena) there have been occasional discrepancies all the way down the chain -- FedGov to State, to County, to City, and then to USD. It's been particularly messy for me as my two schools have different chartering agencies, one through LACOE and the other through PUSD.
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                    • #25
                      JohnnyMtn
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 1476

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                      • #26
                        Deadon
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 9975

                        Rocketman, my best friend just called he lives in Roseville CA. They had it a few days ago. He told the school and they said no problem bring the kids in. My buddy is tripping. He thought they would say stay out for 10 days because it's CA. But nope, just make sure they keep their masks on.


                        It is crazy how everyone was told to follow the CDC and now it's, we'll make our own rules lol.
                        Lions not sheep.

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                        • #27
                          JonChimpo
                          Member
                          • Oct 2016
                          • 249

                          Wow it does really spread fast

                          Originally posted by Deadon
                          Rocketman, my best friend just called he lives in Roseville CA. They had it a few days ago. He told the school and they said no problem bring the kids in. My buddy is tripping. He thought they would say stay out for 10 days because it's CA. But nope, just make sure they keep their masks on.


                          It is crazy how everyone was told to follow the CDC and now it's, we'll make our own rules lol.

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                          • #28
                            ibanezfoo
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 12149

                            Originally posted by Deadon
                            Daughter said they had 16 kids out yesterday in one of her classes. We had it a couple weeks ago so no biggie. But, that's a lot of kids out on one day. The day before she said it was 14 kids.

                            We also have a test site next to the school that has had lines long as can be and each day it's been packed. Yesterday I noticed that there was no one there. I thought meh it's peaked. This morning I heard on the radio that site was shutdown as all staff have covid.

                            It was like a cold for us and nothing like when we had alpha. I was glad to get it over with actually lol.

                            Anyway, it seems like everyone is going to get this mutation. But like I said its very very mild.
                            Is it a cold or is it rona or is it allergies? Around here people have been out at work but they always tell people even if you have the sniffles keep your *** home. Allergies are insane right now due the mold and pollen being like 3x a normal high year.

                            I may have had the new one last week now looking back. I had driven through a big dust cloud kicked up by the road mowers and by the time I got home my sinuses were not happy. Then spent 2 days with kind of a cold mixed with some crazy muscle pain in my legs and back and really bad night sweats feeling like I was on fire but also freezing. Bad headache and dizziness. I assumed it was just some allergies or something triggered by that dust cloud. Then after 2 days it was gone but only sinus issues remaining but I always have these same sinus issues around this time with the cold dry air. I considered getting a test but truthfully I just don't care that much.
                            Last edited by ibanezfoo; 01-15-2022, 6:14 PM.
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                            • #29
                              Deadon
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 9975

                              Well we tested because of Christmas and we were negative with zero symptoms. My patents have some health issues so they asked if we would and I was good with that. 3 days later the wife got sick and thought it was allergies. She went to work and felt like crap.

                              The next morning she woke up feeling crummy and we had a extra test from Christmas and it was positive. The next day our daughter and I got it. But it was a joke, lasted two days and on the 3rd we were back to normal. Wife still had a random cough now and then.


                              Yesterday my daughter's class was down from 16 to 14 out sick. Thats half the class for four days now. It's so bad the school changed the rule to you can come back after 5 days instead of 10.

                              Carson closed the school for a week as all the teachers and a lot of students have it. All this said its nothing to worry about and the school knows as they seem to want everyone to just get it.
                              Lions not sheep.

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                              • #30
                                jbj
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2009
                                • 781

                                Much peace
                                Jimmy

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