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  • sd_shooter
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 13685

    WHO gives up on covid 'boosters'

    This is not the end, but it is perhaps the beginning of the end...



  • #2
    SPUTTER
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2009
    • 7504

    It explicitly said in the statement that future vaccines against Covid must “be more effective in protection against infection thus lowering community transmission.”

    I interpret this as, the shots need to deliver immediate expiration thus reducing transmission. Can't just let them get away this time with a little myocarditis.

    Takes years to develop a good vaccine. What are they going to do, roll them out willy nilly and test them out on the population like they are doing now?

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    • #3
      as_rocketman
      CGSSA Leader
      • Jan 2011
      • 3057

      Originally posted by sd_shooter
      This is not the end, but it is perhaps the beginning of the end...
      You also need to understand the underlying institutional strategy behind those recommendations, not just the technology.

      I do not forsee an endless series of boosters, as many have feared. In my opinion, little changed from day one, the virus is going endemic, and everyone will be exposed repeatedly. The vast majority of the danger will be in that initial exposure. Primary vaccination blunts that risk, but no matter how you come by it, eventually everyone will become more familiar with the virus and it will become the fifth common coronavirus -- not harmless, but nearly so for the vast majority of people. We may see a bad flareup once in a while with unlucky mutations, but for the most part it'll simply become "just the flu."

      I do see something analogous to the flu shot in future. This would be formulated for especially susceptible people, probably on a seasonal basis.

      WHO is not interested in that because, predominantly, they are looking to poorer countries. Yearly elective shots are a luxury item. Unless vaccination provides a community benefit instead of an individual one, it just won't align with their priorities.

      It remains to be seen if SARS-CoV-2 can actually be reduced or eradicated through vaccination after we reach equilibrium. This was done for polio, but that was not a coronavirus. My guess is "no" and it's here for good, though eventually receding to be a mere annoyance. Who knows, though.

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      • #4
        Dan_Eastvale
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        • Apr 2013
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        Will they give up forever masks?

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        • #5
          WWDHD?
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          • Jul 2010
          • 2676

          Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
          Will they give up forever masks?

          That might be the hardest part of this: peeling the masks off of so many fearful peoples faces and to end their insistence that everyone else wear a freedom muzzle as well. Especially in the schools.
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          • #6
            freespool
            Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 362

            Maybe I read it too fast, but they seemed to be saying the current vaccine is still the only thing going for the important goal of completing vaccination of the world, and primarily for that kind of reasoning, in light of modest benefit, the booster strategy should take a back seat to extending primary vaccination coverage. I doubt you can extrapolate that to WHO backing away from boosts per se, but maybe focus will finally shift more exclusively to the most susceptible demographics. Of course they also wish for better vaccines, but if not...
            Last edited by freespool; 01-12-2022, 9:00 PM.

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              Gundiver
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              • #8
                steadyrock
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                • Aug 2007
                • 10235

                Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                Will they give up forever masks?

                That will probably take a generation, maybe two.


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                • #9
                  freespool
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 362

                  Originally posted by steadyrock
                  That will probably take a generation, maybe two.


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                  Until the unchecked emergency powers are taken away - where are the courts already? - there will be more scares invented, with masks as reinforcing symbols of caring husbandry and virtue. Even if that power is taken from the executives, the legislatures will step up. The money and power has just been too easy and free of strings, to want to give up.

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                  • #10
                    SPUTTER
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 7504

                    Originally posted by as_rocketman
                    You also need to understand the underlying institutional strategy behind those recommendations, not just the technology.

                    I do not forsee an endless series of boosters, as many have feared. In my opinion, little changed from day one, the virus is going endemic, and everyone will be exposed repeatedly. The vast majority of the danger will be in that initial exposure. Primary vaccination blunts that risk, but no matter how you come by it, eventually everyone will become more familiar with the virus and it will become the fifth common coronavirus -- not harmless, but nearly so for the vast majority of people. We may see a bad flareup once in a while with unlucky mutations, but for the most part it'll simply become "just the flu."

                    I do see something analogous to the flu shot in future. This would be formulated for especially susceptible people, probably on a seasonal basis.

                    WHO is not interested in that because, predominantly, they are looking to poorer countries. Yearly elective shots are a luxury item. Unless vaccination provides a community benefit instead of an individual one, it just won't align with their priorities.

                    It remains to be seen if SARS-CoV-2 can actually be reduced or eradicated through vaccination after we reach equilibrium. This was done for polio, but that was not a coronavirus. My guess is "no" and it's here for good, though eventually receding to be a mere annoyance. Who knows, though.

                    Again, opinions only here.
                    You are incredibly deluded if that's your takeaway. What the WHO is admitting here is that the current mRNA vaccination campaign is a failure. Their statement:

                    "a vaccination strategy based on repeated booster doses of the original vaccine composition is unlikely to be appropriate or sustainable."
                    You get out of this that the vaccines were a success and that Sars-Cov-2 is endemic? There's nothing in their statement that says this is endemic or that they are in favor of terminating endless boosters.

                    Does anyone know if the shots affect reading comprehension?

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                    • #11
                      sd_shooter
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 13685

                      It's not just the WHO stopping the worthless boosters

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