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  • Scota4570
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 1719

    Omicron also lab created?

    I heard this on a news show. It sounded far fetched. Maybe not? Apparently Omicron has features not found in nature. It may be a deliberate to stop dangerous forms of covid.

    Bottom line to me is that all gain of function experiments must stop. Gain of function is creating biological weapons after all. It is banned by international treaty.


    Anyone who is found to be doing these experiments must be dealt with in the harshest possible way (including execution), there research and facility should be burned. IF it continues they will create a doomsday virus.

    Omicron probably came out of a lab. By Eugyppius. Omicron is not normal. No immediate progenitors are known; its closest relatives are viruses last seen in early- to mid-2020. The orthodox explanat…




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    Jeffjohns
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    • Dec 2021
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      SAN compnerd
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      • May 2009
      • 4725

      If you recall, there was a brief moment when discussion of 'self vaccinating' viruses was allowed on social media.

      Like so many other subjects (lab leak theory), discussion was quickly silenced.

      IIRC omicron binds to the S2 receptor, not ACE2 like the previous variants and I seem to recall a virologist stating this is not something they see in the lab, a mutation between receptors targeted.
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      • #4
        StanCo
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 45

        If Omicron was created in a lab and released into the wild to displace the more deadly versions of Covid-19 I'm pretty sure no one will fess up to it.

        They say Omicron came from mice. When you consider it's rare for a virus to jump to another species I wonder what the odds are that it jumped from humans to mice, mutated, and jumped back to humans. It's also suspicious that gain of function research is done primarily on transgenic mice.

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        • #5
          as_rocketman
          CGSSA Leader
          • Jan 2011
          • 3057

          Originally posted by SAN compnerd
          IIRC omicron binds to the S2 receptor, not ACE2 like the previous variants and I seem to recall a virologist stating this is not something they see in the lab, a mutation between receptors targeted.
          No -- the omicron variant also binds to ACE2. "S2" refers to protein subunit 2, a component of the spike complex. See here for a brief overview of the changes in kinetics, along with why mice may be involved in its genesis.

          There are a lot of mice in the world, not just in labs.
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            2shotjoe
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            • Feb 2011
            • 26479

            I'm praying for Unicron.

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            • #7
              POLICESTATE
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2009
              • 18185

              OMICRON is an anagram for MORONIC
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                bigbossman
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                • Dec 2012
                • 11023

                I'm waiting for Chromium v2.0
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                • #9
                  ibanezfoo
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                  • Apr 2007
                  • 11727

                  Originally posted by Jeffjohns
                  In my personal opinion this new variant is actually lies and are using the common cold to explain it. Notice how no one talks about nurses flu season and the flu is running around and notice how no one’s dying
                  Exactly. I agree with this 100%

                  My wife just went to the doctor with these symptoms and after trying to grill her about getting the vax (she shut them down fast and hard, they bounced, BOOM bitch!) it turns out its just allergies. Same crap.
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                  • #10
                    POLICESTATE
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 18185

                    Originally posted by as_rocketman
                    No -- the omicron variant also binds to ACE2. "S2" refers to protein subunit 2, a component of the spike complex. See here for a brief overview of the changes in kinetics, along with why mice may be involved in its genesis.

                    There are a lot of mice in the world, not just in labs.
                    Let's also not forget that bats are flying mice, "fledermaus" to those of us of German ancestry. Okay bats are not technically mice, but they are rodents, and if mice can be a vector, rats could easily become so as well.

                    You can't vaccinate out of existence things that have an animal vector, otherwise we would have eradicated malaria a long time ago.

                    But we have a whole lot of people in government and media, who people always used to joke about being generally dumb and ignorant, and the reality has turned out to be they are far dumber and much more ignorant than we could have ever joked about. Even to the point of planning on throwing the purebloods into internment/isolation camps up in Washington - which is still technically part of America. Reminds me of certain people from Germany last century.
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                      Wherryj
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                      • Mar 2010
                      • 11085

                      It may be. How is it that we have almost exact percentages of strains in circulation, yet none of the tests are looking specifically at strains? I have patients getting pissed off because I can't tell them what strain they have. They see CNN talking about specific numbers and they think that I'm hiding information.

                      I have yet to see a single test of any patient that determined Covid strain. Who is doing these super secret typing tests and why are they giving such precise numbers if it is a small percentage extrapolated into a large number of tests?
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                      • #12
                        bigbossman
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                        • Dec 2012
                        • 11023

                        Originally posted by Wherryj
                        It may be. How is it that we have almost exact percentages of strains in circulation, yet none of the tests are looking specifically at strains?
                        Doesn't that make rocket man's data set pretty useless?
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                        • #13
                          as_rocketman
                          CGSSA Leader
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 3057

                          Originally posted by POLICESTATE
                          Let's also not forget that bats are flying mice, "fledermaus" to those of us of German ancestry. Okay bats are not technically mice, but they are rodents, and if mice can be a vector, rats could easily become so as well.
                          Bats are not rodents. However, I don't think this harms your point, which is the endemic and ubiquitous nature of the virus.

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                          Originally posted by Wherryj
                          It may be. How is it that we have almost exact percentages of strains in circulation, yet none of the tests are looking specifically at strains? I have patients getting pissed off because I can't tell them what strain they have. They see CNN talking about specific numbers and they think that I'm hiding information.

                          I have yet to see a single test of any patient that determined Covid strain. Who is doing these super secret typing tests and why are they giving such precise numbers if it is a small percentage extrapolated into a large number of tests?
                          Not secret. Strain prevalence is estimated through sampling, just like any quality control method -- in LA County, they've established a network of laboratories, including hospitals, universities, and commercial, that actually run sequencing. It's much easier to do than it was in the past.

                          There was a recent correction to a previous report on prevalence, so obviously there are some uncertainties in this analysis, probably geographic in nature. Estimates specific to well-populated locations should be pretty good in general, but do expect some noise.
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                          • #14
                            stix213
                            AKA: Joe Censored
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 18998

                            When a person is infected with multiple similar viruses, the are known to share genetic material and create hybrids. This is a reasonable explanation for why Omicron has sequences from a common cold coronavirus. There's likely been hundreds of thousands of people who have had both covid and a cold virus at the same time.

                            But it is also quite convenient that Omicron seems optimal for quickly spreading, limiting deaths, and inoculating the population against other SARS-CoV-2 variants. It appears we couldn't have designed a better "natural" vaccine.

                            Omicron is also not based on Delta or any other recent variant, but instead on variants which have been all but extinct for some time. These older variants though do exist in laboratories around the world.

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                            • #15
                              ACfixer
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 6053

                              Originally posted by Jeffjohns
                              In my personal opinion this new variant is actually lies and are using the common cold to explain it. Notice how no one talks about nurses flu season and the flu is running around and notice how no one’s dying
                              In my personal opinion it is a weak form of the original lab created virus that has escaped the "vaccines."

                              In any event, I am with you, it is all predicated on lies.
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