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  • Deadon
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2010
    • 9975

    Step in rocketman, I'd like your take on what this Dr is saying.

    Thoughts?
    Dr explains why vaccines are making things worse. Rocketman I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. Please watch all 7 short videos before you comment.

    7 part series














    ​​​​​​​https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM87Wd2bG/
    Lions not sheep.
  • #2
    SanDiego619
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2013
    • 12139

    He will say the benefits outweigh the risks, he has a graph to prove it.
    Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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    • #3
      bigbossman
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2012
      • 11085

      Originally posted by SanDiego619
      He will say the benefits outweigh the risks, he has a graph to prove it.
      No, he's "walls of Text" guy. You're confusing him with the socialist troll Ball-Boy.
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      • #4
        DaveInOroValley
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jan 2010
        • 8967

        Originally posted by SanDiego619
        He will say the benefits outweigh the risks, he has a graph to prove it.
        You forgot and heart issues are "manageable"
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        • #5
          stix213
          AKA: Joe Censored
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Apr 2009
          • 18998

          Originally posted by DaveInOroValley
          You forgot and heart issues are "manageable"
          Absolutely manageable. We have an entire funeral industry ready to step in to manage these heart problems.

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          • #6
            theLBC
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Oct 2017
            • 6716



            The study looked at data on 139 adolescent or young adult patients, all under 21 years old, “with suspected myocarditis within 30 days of COVID-19 vaccination” from 26 healthcare centers in America.

            The study states: “Understanding the clinical course and short-term outcomes of suspected myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination has important public health implications in the decision to vaccinate youth.”

            It found that 136, or 97.8%, has received an mRNA shot and 131, or 91.4%, after a Pfizer jab with 128, or 91.4%, coming after the second jab. The median age was 15.8 with males (126, or 90.6%) making up the largest share. Symptoms generally started within 2 days of being jabbed, and chest pains (99.3%) were the most common symptom.

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            • #7
              bigbossman
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2012
              • 11085

              Originally posted by DaveInOroValley
              You forgot and heart issues are "manageable"
              I think he actually said "easily manageable".
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              • #8
                as_rocketman
                CGSSA Leader
                • Jan 2011
                • 3057

                Originally posted by bigbossman
                I think he actually said "easily manageable".
                What I actually said regarding myocarditis is that the risks were manageable and that meaningful treatments exist, but that level of misquoting is par for the course around here.

                To the OP, I'm going to have to decline -- I'm not insisting on peer-reviewed literature, but I am drawing the line at TikTok . If you have something to say in a less frivolous medium, or wouldn't mind summarizing the argument yourself, go ahead. I have to imagine this individual, whomever he is, is capable of more useful communication, if what he has to say is worth listening to.
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                • #9
                  Deadon
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 9975

                  Originally posted by as_rocketman
                  What I actually said regarding myocarditis is that the risks were manageable and that meaningful treatments exist, but that level of misquoting is par for the course around here.

                  To the OP, I'm going to have to decline -- I'm not insisting on peer-reviewed literature, but I am drawing the line at TikTok . If you have something to say in a less frivolous medium, or wouldn't mind summarizing the argument yourself, go ahead. I have to imagine this individual, whomever he is, is capable of more useful communication, if what he has to say is worth listening to.
                  It's ok I figured you would duck it. You sure were fast to defend Pfizer when they had no Peer reviewed studies when vaccines came out for children tho.
                  Last edited by Deadon; 12-10-2021, 12:56 PM.
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                  • #10
                    SPUTTER
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 7504

                    Actually, the doctor didn't upload to TikTok, the video is available on several platforms.

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                    • #11
                      as_rocketman
                      CGSSA Leader
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 3057

                      Originally posted by SPUTTER
                      Actually, the doctor didn't upload to TikTok, the video is available on several platforms.
                      Well, point me to it, then...

                      I'd duck an invite to read a Facebook posting, too. I imagine that's not unusual around here.
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                      • #12
                        as_rocketman
                        CGSSA Leader
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 3057

                        Originally posted by Deadon
                        It's ok I figured you would duck it. You sure were fast to defend Pfizer when they had no Peer reviewed studies when vaccines came out for children tho.
                        If you won't even bother to find a more suitable form of communication -- I'm told it exists -- then why should I make the effort?

                        Regarding what I said about Pfizer, I was reacting to a formal FDA review of their data, and I specifically pointed out that peer review was expected and is worth reviewing. They have since put forth the Phase II/III results in NEJM. So... yeah, you're making a lot of noise about nothing.

                        TikTok, seriously? Are you 12 or something:
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                        • #13
                          Deadon
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 9975

                          Originally posted by as_rocketman
                          If you won't even bother to find a more suitable form of communication -- I'm told it exists -- then why should I make the effort?

                          Regarding what I said about Pfizer, I was reacting to a formal FDA review of their data, and I specifically pointed out that peer review was expected and is worth reviewing. They have since put forth the Phase II/III results in NEJM. So... yeah, you're making a lot of noise about nothing.

                          TikTok, seriously? Are you 12 or something:
                          Tell us all what's wrong with the conservative side of tik tok? The videos stay up longer than YouTube and other platforms so yeah I'll post from there. Post something like this on YouTube and it's gone in no time. I posted the 7 links so it's rhe full video and not some small clip.

                          Can you tell us all how tik tok is different than YouTube? They both have teen sides and serious sides right?

                          As far as Pfizer NOW being peer reviewed, it wasn't then and you gave it your thumbs up. So it's ok to give something a green light because you think it will have a peer review later on? Aw I see. I simply asked you to review what the Dr said, you seem like a smart guy so I thought you could tell us if he's wrong or not.
                          Last edited by Deadon; 12-10-2021, 1:10 PM.
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                          • #14
                            as_rocketman
                            CGSSA Leader
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 3057

                            Originally posted by Deadon
                            Tell us all what's wrong with the conservative side of tik tok? The videos stay up longer than YouTube and other platforms so yeah I'll post from there. Post something like this on YouTube and it's gone in no time. I posted the 7 links so it's rhe full video and not some small clip.

                            Can you tell us all how tik tok is different than YouTube? They both have teen sides and serious sides right?
                            You choose a forum to present in based on the audience you want to reach. I have never logged into TikTok, and I don't aim to start just because one of its denizens found "something."

                            Even an self-published whitepaper would be better. I spent great effort tearing apart one of those in here, just last year.

                            If he can't even manage that, then I know he's not the least bit serious.

                            Originally posted by Deadon
                            As far as Pfizer NOW being peer reviewed, it's wasn't then and you gave it your thumbs up. So it's ok to give something a green light because you think it will have a peer review later on? Aw I see. I simply asked you to review what the Dr said, you seem like a smart guy so I thought you could tell us if he's wrong or not.
                            You don't seem to have a clue about my position. I'm going to guess that's because I didn't post it on TikTok, but you may have other challenges.
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                            • #15
                              gcvt
                              Orlando, Florida
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 13726

                              Information does not fit preferred narrative. Must attack hosting platform and person who posted/linked information.
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